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From: Stanislaw Gruszka <sgruszka@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm,page_alloc: Split stall warning and failure warning.
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:06:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170424130634.GA6267@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170424084216.GB1739@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 10:42:17AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Sat 22-04-17 10:10:34, Stanislaw Gruszka wrote:
> [...]
> > > This whole special casing
> > > of debug_guardpage_minorder is just too strange to me. We do have a rate
> > > limit to not flood the log.
> > 
> > I added this check to skip warning if buddy allocator fail, what I
> > considered likely scenario taking the conditions. The check remove
> > warning completely, rate limit only limit the speed warnings shows in
> > logs.
> 
> Yes and this is what I argue against. The feature limits the amount of
> _usable_ memory and as such it changes the behavior of the allocator
> which can lead to all sorts of problems (including high memory pressure,
> stalls, OOM etc.). The warning is there to help debug all those
> problems and removing it just changes that behavior in an unexpected
> way. This is just wrong thing to do IMHO. Even worse so when it
> motivates to make other code in the allocator more complicated.

Allocation problems when using debug_guardpage_minorder should not be
motivation to any mm change. This option is debug only (as name should
suggest already). It purpose is to debug drivers/code that corrupt
memory at random places, it is expected it will cause allocations
problems.

> If there
> is really a problem logs flooded by the allocation failures while using
> the guard page we should address it by a more strict ratelimiting.

Ok, make sense.

Stanislaw

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-24 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-10 11:58 [PATCH] mm,page_alloc: Split stall warning and failure warning Tetsuo Handa
2017-04-10 12:39 ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-10 14:23   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-04-10 22:03 ` Andrew Morton
2017-04-11  7:15   ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-11 11:43     ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-04-11 11:54       ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-11 13:26         ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-04-17 22:48   ` David Rientjes
2017-04-18 11:49     ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-04-18 12:14       ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-18 21:47       ` David Rientjes
2017-04-19 11:13         ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-19 13:22           ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2017-04-19 13:33             ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-22  8:10               ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2017-04-24  8:42                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-04-24 13:06                   ` Stanislaw Gruszka [this message]
2017-04-24 15:06                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-04-25  6:36                       ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2017-04-19 22:34             ` David Rientjes
2017-04-20 11:46         ` Tetsuo Handa

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