From: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Linux RT Users <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>,
cl@linux.com, cmetcalf@mellanox.com
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] MM: allow per-cpu vmstat_threshold and vmstat_worker configuration
Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 13:15:27 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170502131527.7532fc2e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170502165159.GA5457@amt.cnet>
On Tue, 2 May 2017 13:52:00 -0300
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com> wrote:
> > I have several questions about the tunables:
> >
> > - What does the vmstat_threshold value mean? What are the implications
> > of changing this value? What's the difference in choosing 1, 2, 3
> > or 500?
>
> Its the maximum value for a vmstat statistics counter to hold. After
> that value, the statistics are transferred to the global counter:
>
> void __mod_node_page_state(struct pglist_data *pgdat, enum node_stat_item item,
> long delta)
> {
> struct per_cpu_nodestat __percpu *pcp = pgdat->per_cpu_nodestats;
> s8 __percpu *p = pcp->vm_node_stat_diff + item;
> long x;
> long t;
>
> x = delta + __this_cpu_read(*p);
>
> t = __this_cpu_read(pcp->stat_threshold);
>
> if (unlikely(x > t || x < -t)) {
> node_page_state_add(x, pgdat, item);
> x = 0;
> }
> __this_cpu_write(*p, x);
> }
> EXPORT_SYMBOL(__mod_node_page_state);
>
> BTW, there is a bug there, should change that to:
>
> if (unlikely(x >= t || x <= -t)) {
>
> Increasing the threshold value does two things:
> 1) It decreases the number of inter-processor accesses.
> 2) It increases how much the global counters stay out of
> sync relative to actual current values.
OK, but I'm mostly concerned with the sysadmin who will have
to change the tunable. So, I think it's a good idea to improve
the doc to contain that information.
> > - If the purpose of having vmstat_threshold is to allow disabling
> > the vmstat kworker, why can't the kernel pick a value automatically?
>
> Because it might be acceptable for the user to accept a small
> out of syncedness of the global counters in favour of performance
> (one would have to analyze the situation).
>
> Setting vmstat_threshold == 1 means the global counter is always
> in sync with the page counter state of the pCPU.
IMHO, if vmstat_threshold == 1 is the required setting for
disabling the vmstat kworker then I'd go with only one tunable
for now. But that's just a suggestion.
>
> > - What are the implications of disabling the vmstat kworker? Will vm
> > stats still be collected someway or will it be completely off for
> > the CPU?
>
> It will not be necessary to collect vmstats because at every modification
> of the vm statistics, pCPUs with vmstat_threshold=1 transfer their
> values to the global counters (that is, there is no queueing of statistics
> locally to improve performance).
Ah, OK. Got this now. I'll give this patch a try. But I think we want
to hear from Christoph (who worked on reducing the vmstat interruptions
in the past).
> > Also, shouldn't this patch be split into two?
>
> First add one sysfs file, then add another sysfs file, you mean?
Yes, one tunable per patch.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-05-02 17:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-04-25 13:57 [patch 0/2] per-CPU vmstat thresholds and vmstat worker disablement Marcelo Tosatti
2017-04-25 13:57 ` [patch 1/2] MM: remove unused quiet_vmstat function Marcelo Tosatti
2017-04-25 13:57 ` [patch 2/2] MM: allow per-cpu vmstat_threshold and vmstat_worker configuration Marcelo Tosatti
2017-04-25 19:29 ` Rik van Riel
2017-04-25 19:36 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-02 14:28 ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-05-02 16:52 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-02 17:15 ` Luiz Capitulino [this message]
2017-05-02 17:21 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-11 15:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-12 12:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-12 15:11 ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-12 15:40 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-12 16:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-12 16:07 ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-12 16:19 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-12 16:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-15 19:15 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-16 13:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-19 14:34 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-19 17:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-19 17:49 ` Luiz Capitulino
2017-05-22 16:35 ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-25 19:35 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-26 3:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-26 19:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-30 18:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2017-07-10 15:05 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-20 8:26 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-05-22 16:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2017-05-22 21:13 ` Marcelo Tosatti
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