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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kernel-team@fb.com, pjt@google.com, luto@amacapital.net,
	efault@gmx.de
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 11/17] cgroup: Implement new thread mode semantics
Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 17:47:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170517214718.GH942@htj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1494855256-12558-12-git-send-email-longman@redhat.com>

Hello, Waiman.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:34:10AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> The current thread mode semantics aren't sufficient to fully support
> threaded controllers like cpu. The main problem is that when thread
> mode is enabled at root (mainly for performance reason), all the
> non-threaded controllers cannot be supported at all.
> 
> To alleviate this problem, the roles of thread root and threaded
> cgroups are now further separated. Now thread mode can only be enabled
> on a non-root leaf cgroup whose parent will then become the thread
> root. All the descendants of a threaded cgroup will still need to be
> threaded. All the non-threaded resource will be accounted for in the
> thread root. Unlike the previous thread mode, however, a thread root
> can have non-threaded children where system resources like memory
> can be further split down the hierarchy.
> 
> Now we could have something like
> 
> 	R -- A -- B
> 	 \
> 	  T1 -- T2
> 
> where R is the thread root, A and B are non-threaded cgroups, T1 and
> T2 are threaded cgroups. The cgroups R, T1, T2 form a threaded subtree
> where all the non-threaded resources are accounted for in R.  The no
> internal process constraint does not apply in the threaded subtree.
> Non-threaded controllers need to properly handle the competition
> between internal processes and child cgroups at the thread root.
> 
> This model will be flexible enough to support the need of the threaded
> controllers.

I do like the approach and it does address the issue with requiring at
least one level of nesting for the thread mode to be used with other
controllers.  I need to think a bit more about it and mull over what
Peterz was suggesting in the old thread.  I'll get back to you soon
but I'd really prefer this and the earlier related patches to be in
its own patchset so that we aren't dealing with different things at
the same time.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-17 21:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-15 13:33 [RFC PATCH v2 00/17] cgroup: Major changes to cgroup v2 core Waiman Long
2017-05-15 13:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/17] cgroup: reorganize cgroup.procs / task write path Waiman Long
2017-05-15 13:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/17] cgroup: add @flags to css_task_iter_start() and implement CSS_TASK_ITER_PROCS Waiman Long
2017-05-15 13:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/17] cgroup: introduce cgroup->proc_cgrp and threaded css_set handling Waiman Long
2017-05-15 13:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/17] cgroup: implement CSS_TASK_ITER_THREADED Waiman Long
2017-05-15 13:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/17] cgroup: implement cgroup v2 thread support Waiman Long
2017-05-15 13:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/17] cgroup: Fix reference counting bug in cgroup_procs_write() Waiman Long
2017-05-17 19:20   ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-15 13:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/17] cgroup: Prevent kill_css() from being called more than once Waiman Long
2017-05-17 19:23   ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-17 20:24     ` Waiman Long
2017-05-17 21:34       ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-15 13:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/17] cgroup: Move debug cgroup to its own file Waiman Long
2017-05-17 21:36   ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-18 15:29     ` Waiman Long
2017-05-18 15:52     ` Waiman Long
2017-05-19 19:21       ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-19 19:33         ` Waiman Long
2017-05-19 20:28           ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-15 13:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/17] cgroup: Keep accurate count of tasks in each css_set Waiman Long
2017-05-17 21:40   ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-18 15:56     ` Waiman Long
2017-05-15 13:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/17] cgroup: Make debug cgroup support v2 and thread mode Waiman Long
2017-05-17 21:43   ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-18 15:58     ` Waiman Long
2017-05-15 13:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/17] cgroup: Implement new thread mode semantics Waiman Long
2017-05-17 21:47   ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2017-05-18 17:21     ` Waiman Long
2017-05-19 20:26   ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-19 20:58     ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-22 17:13     ` Waiman Long
2017-05-22 17:32       ` Waiman Long
2017-05-24 20:36       ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-24 21:17         ` Waiman Long
2017-05-24 21:27           ` Tejun Heo
2017-06-01 14:50             ` Tejun Heo
2017-06-01 15:10               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-01 15:35                 ` Tejun Heo
2017-06-01 18:44                 ` Waiman Long
2017-06-01 18:47                   ` Tejun Heo
2017-06-01 19:27                     ` Waiman Long
2017-06-01 20:38                       ` Tejun Heo
2017-06-01 20:48                         ` Waiman Long
2017-06-01 20:52                           ` Tejun Heo
2017-06-01 21:12                             ` Waiman Long
2017-06-01 21:18                               ` Tejun Heo
2017-06-02 20:36                                 ` Waiman Long
2017-06-03 10:33                                   ` Tejun Heo
2017-06-01 19:55                   ` Waiman Long
2017-06-01 20:15                 ` Waiman Long
2017-06-01 18:41               ` Waiman Long
2017-05-15 13:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/17] cgroup: Remove cgroup v2 no internal process constraint Waiman Long
2017-05-19 20:38   ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-20  2:10     ` Mike Galbraith
2017-05-24 17:01       ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-22 16:56     ` Waiman Long
2017-05-24 17:05       ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-24 18:09         ` Waiman Long
2017-05-24 18:19         ` Waiman Long
2017-05-15 13:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/17] cgroup: Allow fine-grained controllers control in cgroup v2 Waiman Long
2017-05-19 20:55   ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-19 21:20     ` Waiman Long
2017-05-24 17:31       ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-24 17:49         ` Waiman Long
2017-05-24 17:56           ` Tejun Heo
2017-05-24 18:17             ` Waiman Long
2017-05-15 13:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/17] cgroup: Enable printing of v2 controllers' cgroup hierarchy Waiman Long
2017-05-15 13:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/17] sched: Misc preps for cgroup unified hierarchy interface Waiman Long
2017-05-15 13:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/17] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified hierarchy Waiman Long
2017-05-15 13:34 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/17] sched: Make cpu/cpuacct threaded controllers Waiman Long

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