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From: Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>
To: Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	kasan-dev@googlegroups.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	kernel-team@lge.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/11] mm/kasan: support per-page shadow memory to reduce memory consumption
Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 10:53:50 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170519015348.GA1763@js1304-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ebcc02d9-fa2b-30b1-2260-99cdf7434487@virtuozzo.com>

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 03:17:13PM +0300, Andrey Ryabinin wrote:
> On 05/16/2017 04:16 AM, js1304@gmail.com wrote:
> > From: Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>
> > 
> > Hello, all.
> > 
> > This is an attempt to recude memory consumption of KASAN. Please see
> > following description to get the more information.
> > 
> > 1. What is per-page shadow memory
> > 
> > This patch introduces infrastructure to support per-page shadow memory.
> > Per-page shadow memory is the same with original shadow memory except
> > the granualarity. It's one byte shows the shadow value for the page.
> > The purpose of introducing this new shadow memory is to save memory
> > consumption.
> > 
> > 2. Problem of current approach
> > 
> > Until now, KASAN needs shadow memory for all the range of the memory
> > so the amount of statically allocated memory is so large. It causes
> > the problem that KASAN cannot run on the system with hard memory
> > constraint. Even if KASAN can run, large memory consumption due to
> > KASAN changes behaviour of the workload so we cannot validate
> > the moment that we want to check.
> > 
> > 3. How does this patch fix the problem
> > 
> > This patch tries to fix the problem by reducing memory consumption for
> > the shadow memory. There are two observations.
> > 
> 
> 
> I think that the best way to deal with your problem is to increase shadow scale size.
> 
> You'll need to add tunable to gcc to control shadow size. I expect that gcc has some
> places where 8-shadow scale size is hardcoded, but it should be fixable.
> 
> The kernel also have some small amount of code written with KASAN_SHADOW_SCALE_SIZE == 8 in mind,
> which should be easy to fix.
> 
> Note that bigger shadow scale size requires bigger alignment of allocated memory and variables.
> However, according to comments in gcc/asan.c gcc already aligns stack and global variables and at
> 32-bytes boundary.
> So we could bump shadow scale up to 32 without increasing current stack consumption.
> 
> On a small machine (1Gb) 1/32 of shadow is just 32Mb which is comparable to yours 30Mb, but I expect it to be
> much faster. More importantly, this will require only small amount of simple changes in code, which will be
> a *lot* more easier to maintain.

I agree that it is also a good option to reduce memory consumption.
Nevertheless, there are two reasons that justifies this patchset.

1) With this patchset, memory consumption isn't increased in
proportional to total memory size. Please consider my 4Gb system
example on the below. With increasing shadow scale size to 32, memory
would be consumed by 128M. However, this patchset consumed 50MB. This
difference can be larger if we run KASAN with bigger machine.

2) These two optimization can be applied simulatenously. It is just an
orthogonal feature. If shadow scale size is increased to 32, memory
consumption will be decreased in case of my patchset, too.

Therefore, I think that this patchset is useful in any case.

Note that increasing shadow scale has it's own trade-off. It requires
that the size of slab object is aligned to shadow scale. It will
increase memory consumption due to slab.

Thanks.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-19  1:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-16  1:16 [PATCH v1 00/11] mm/kasan: support per-page shadow memory to reduce memory consumption js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 01/11] mm/kasan: rename XXX_is_zero to XXX_is_nonzero js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 02/11] mm/kasan: don't fetch the next shadow value speculartively js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 03/11] mm/kasan: handle unaligned end address in zero_pte_populate js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 04/11] mm/kasan: extend kasan_populate_zero_shadow() js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 05/11] mm/kasan: introduce per-page shadow memory infrastructure js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 06/11] mm/kasan: mark/unmark the target range that is for original shadow memory js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 07/11] x86/kasan: use per-page " js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 08/11] mm/kasan: support on-demand shadow allocation/mapping js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 09/11] x86/kasan: support on-demand shadow mapping js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 10/11] mm/kasan: support dynamic shadow memory free js1304
2017-05-16  1:16 ` [PATCH v1 11/11] mm/kasan: change the order of shadow memory check js1304
2017-05-16  1:28 ` [PATCH(RE-RESEND) v1 01/11] mm/kasan: rename _is_zero to _is_nonzero Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-16  4:34 ` [PATCH v1 00/11] mm/kasan: support per-page shadow memory to reduce memory consumption Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-16  4:47   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-16  6:23   ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-16 20:49     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-17  7:23       ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-17  7:25         ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-24  6:57       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-24  7:45         ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-24 17:19           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-25  0:41             ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-29 15:07               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-29 15:12                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-29 15:29                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-30  7:58                     ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-30  8:15                       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-30  8:31                         ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-30  8:40                           ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-30  8:49                             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-30  9:08                               ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-30  9:26                                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-30  9:39                                   ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-30  9:45                                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-30  9:54                                       ` Vladimir Murzin
2017-05-30 14:16                     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-05-31  5:50                       ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-31 16:31                         ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-06-08  2:43                           ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-06-01 15:16                       ` 王靖天
2017-06-01 18:06                       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-06-08  2:40                         ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-06-13 16:49                           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-06-14  0:12                             ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-17 12:17 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-05-19  1:53   ` Joonsoo Kim [this message]
2017-05-22  6:02     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-24  6:04       ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-24 16:31         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2017-05-25  0:46           ` Joonsoo Kim
2017-05-22 14:00     ` Andrey Ryabinin
2017-05-24  6:18       ` Joonsoo Kim

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