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From: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Reza Arbab <arbab@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Yasuaki Ishimatsu <yasu.isimatu@gmail.com>,
	qiuxishi@huawei.com, Kani Toshimitsu <toshi.kani@hpe.com>,
	slaoub@gmail.com, Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, memory_hotplug: support movable_node for hotplugable nodes
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 12:28:32 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170612042832.GA7429@WeideMBP.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170608122318.31598-1-mhocko@kernel.org>

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On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 02:23:18PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
>From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
>
>movable_node kernel parameter allows to make hotplugable NUMA
>nodes to put all the hotplugable memory into movable zone which
>allows more or less reliable memory hotremove.  At least this
>is the case for the NUMA nodes present during the boot (see
>find_zone_movable_pfns_for_nodes).
>

When movable_node is enabled, we would have overlapped zones, right?
To be specific, only ZONE_MOVABLE could have memory ranges belongs to other
zones.

This looks a little different in the whole ZONE design.

>This is not the case for the memory hotplug, though.
>
>	echo online > /sys/devices/system/memory/memoryXYZ/status
>
>will default to a kernel zone (usually ZONE_NORMAL) unless the
>particular memblock is already in the movable zone range which is not
            ^^^

Here is memblock or a memory_block?

>the case normally when onlining the memory from the udev rule context
>for a freshly hotadded NUMA node. The only option currently is to have a

So the semantic you want to change here is to make the memory_block in
ZONE_MOVABLE when movable_node is enabled.

Besides this, movable_node is enabled, what other requirements? Like, this
memory_block should next to current ZONE_MOVABLE ? or something else?

>special udev rule to echo online_movable to all memblocks belonging to
>such a node which is rather clumsy. Not the mention this is inconsistent
                                         ^^^

Hmm... "Not to mentions" looks more understandable.

BTW, I am not a native speaker. If this usage is correct, just ignore this
comment.

>as well because what ended up in the movable zone during the boot will
>end up in a kernel zone after hotremove & hotadd without special care.
>
>It would be nice to reuse memblock_is_hotpluggable but the runtime
>hotplug doesn't have that information available because the boot and
>hotplug paths are not shared and it would be really non trivial to
>make them use the same code path because the runtime hotplug doesn't
>play with the memblock allocator at all.
>
>Teach move_pfn_range that MMOP_ONLINE_KEEP can use the movable zone if
>movable_node is enabled and the range doesn't overlap with the existing
>normal zone. This should provide a reasonable default onlining strategy.
>
>Strictly speaking the semantic is not identical with the boot time
>initialization because find_zone_movable_pfns_for_nodes covers only the
>hotplugable range as described by the BIOS/FW. From my experience this
>is usually a full node though (except for Node0 which is special and
>never goes away completely). If this turns out to be a problem in the
>real life we can tweak the code to store hotplug flag into memblocks
>but let's keep this simple now.
>

Let me try to understand your purpose of this change.

If a memblock has MEMBLOCK_HOTPLU set, it would be in ZONE_MOVABLE during
bootup. While a hotplugged memory_block would be in ZONE_NORMAL without
special care.

So you want to make sure when movable_node is enabled, the hotplugged
memory_block would be in ZONE_MOVABLE. Is this correct?

One more thing is do we have MEMBLOCK_HOTPLU for a hotplugged memory_block?

>Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
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>

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Wei Yang
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-12  4:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-08 12:23 [PATCH] mm, memory_hotplug: support movable_node for hotplugable nodes Michal Hocko
2017-06-10 14:33 ` Wei Yang
2017-06-12  6:35   ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-11  1:45 ` Wei Yang
2017-06-12  6:37   ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-12  4:28 ` Wei Yang [this message]
2017-06-12  6:45   ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-14  9:06     ` Wei Yang
2017-06-14  9:07       ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-06-15  1:03         ` Wei Yang
2017-06-15  3:13     ` Wei Yang
2017-06-15  8:16       ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-12  8:58 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-06-12 11:12 ` [PATCH -v2] " Michal Hocko
2017-06-15  3:29 ` [PATCH] " Wei Yang
2017-06-15  8:24   ` Michal Hocko
2017-06-15 15:43 ` Reza Arbab

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