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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Vineet Gupta <vgupta@synopsys.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 00:52:10 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170619215210.2crwjou3sfdcj73d@node.shutemov.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170619170911.GF3024@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 06:09:12PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 07:00:05PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 04:22:29PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 05:52:22PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > > > We need an atomic way to setup pmd page table entry, avoiding races with
> > > > CPU setting dirty/accessed bits. This is required to implement
> > > > pmdp_invalidate() that doesn't loose these bits.
> > > > 
> > > > On PAE we have to use cmpxchg8b as we cannot assume what is value of new pmd and
> > > > setting it up half-by-half can expose broken corrupted entry to CPU.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Kirill A. Shutemov <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
> > > > Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
> > > > Cc: H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>
> > > > Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> > > 
> > > I'll look at this from the arm64 perspective. It would be good if we can
> > > have a generic atomic implementation based on cmpxchg64 but I need to
> > > look at the details first.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I'm not sure it's possbile.
> > 
> > The format of a page table is defined per-arch. We cannot assume much about
> > it in generic code.
> > 
> > I guess we could make it compile by casting to 'unsigned long', but is it
> > useful?
> > Every architecture manintainer still has to validate that this assumption
> > is valid for the architecture.
> 
> You are right, not much gained in doing this.
> 
> Maybe a stupid question but can we not implement pmdp_invalidate() with
> something like pmdp_get_and_clear() (usually reusing the ptep_*
> equivalent). Or pmdp_clear_flush() (again, reusing ptep_clear_flush())?
> 
> In my quick grep on pmdp_invalidate, it seems to be followed by
> set_pmd_at() or pmd_populate() already and the *pmd value after
> mknotpresent isn't any different from 0 to the hardware (at least on
> ARM). That's unless Linux expects to see some non-zero value here if
> walking the page tables on another CPU.

The whole reason to have pmdp_invalidate() in first place is to never make
pmd clear in the middle. Otherwise we will get race with MADV_DONTNEED.
See ced108037c2a for an example of such race.

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-19 21:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-15 14:52 [HELP-NEEDED, PATCHv2 0/3] Do not loose dirty bit on THP pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 14:52 ` [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-16 13:36   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-06-19 12:46     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19  5:48   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-19 12:48     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19 13:04       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-19 15:22   ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-19 16:00     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19 17:09       ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-19 21:52         ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2017-06-20 15:54           ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-21  9:53             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-21 10:40               ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-21 11:27               ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-21 12:04                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-21 15:49                 ` Vineet Gupta
2017-06-21 17:15                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-21 17:20                     ` Vineet Gupta
2017-06-21 17:52                       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19 17:11   ` Nadav Amit
2017-06-19 21:57     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 14:52 ` [PATCHv2 2/3] mm: Do not loose dirty and access bits in pmdp_invalidate() Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 22:44   ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-16 13:40   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-06-19 13:29     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 14:52 ` [PATCHv2 3/3] mm: Use updated pmdp_invalidate() inteface to track dirty/accessed bits Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 21:54   ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-15 23:02   ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-16  3:02   ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-16 13:19     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-16 13:52       ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-16 14:27         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-06-16 14:53           ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-19 14:03             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-20  2:52               ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-20  9:57                 ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-16 11:31   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-06-16 13:21     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-16 15:57       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V

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