From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Vineet Gupta <vgupta@synopsys.com>,
Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 00:52:10 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170619215210.2crwjou3sfdcj73d@node.shutemov.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170619170911.GF3024@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com>
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 06:09:12PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 07:00:05PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 04:22:29PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 05:52:22PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > > > We need an atomic way to setup pmd page table entry, avoiding races with
> > > > CPU setting dirty/accessed bits. This is required to implement
> > > > pmdp_invalidate() that doesn't loose these bits.
> > > >
> > > > On PAE we have to use cmpxchg8b as we cannot assume what is value of new pmd and
> > > > setting it up half-by-half can expose broken corrupted entry to CPU.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Kirill A. Shutemov <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
> > > > Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
> > > > Cc: H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>
> > > > Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> > >
> > > I'll look at this from the arm64 perspective. It would be good if we can
> > > have a generic atomic implementation based on cmpxchg64 but I need to
> > > look at the details first.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I'm not sure it's possbile.
> >
> > The format of a page table is defined per-arch. We cannot assume much about
> > it in generic code.
> >
> > I guess we could make it compile by casting to 'unsigned long', but is it
> > useful?
> > Every architecture manintainer still has to validate that this assumption
> > is valid for the architecture.
>
> You are right, not much gained in doing this.
>
> Maybe a stupid question but can we not implement pmdp_invalidate() with
> something like pmdp_get_and_clear() (usually reusing the ptep_*
> equivalent). Or pmdp_clear_flush() (again, reusing ptep_clear_flush())?
>
> In my quick grep on pmdp_invalidate, it seems to be followed by
> set_pmd_at() or pmd_populate() already and the *pmd value after
> mknotpresent isn't any different from 0 to the hardware (at least on
> ARM). That's unless Linux expects to see some non-zero value here if
> walking the page tables on another CPU.
The whole reason to have pmdp_invalidate() in first place is to never make
pmd clear in the middle. Otherwise we will get race with MADV_DONTNEED.
See ced108037c2a for an example of such race.
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Kirill A. Shutemov
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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-15 14:52 [HELP-NEEDED, PATCHv2 0/3] Do not loose dirty bit on THP pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 14:52 ` [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-16 13:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-06-19 12:46 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19 5:48 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-19 12:48 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19 13:04 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-19 15:22 ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-19 16:00 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19 17:09 ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-19 21:52 ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2017-06-20 15:54 ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-21 9:53 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-21 10:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-21 11:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-21 12:04 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-21 15:49 ` Vineet Gupta
2017-06-21 17:15 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-21 17:20 ` Vineet Gupta
2017-06-21 17:52 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19 17:11 ` Nadav Amit
2017-06-19 21:57 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 14:52 ` [PATCHv2 2/3] mm: Do not loose dirty and access bits in pmdp_invalidate() Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 22:44 ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-16 13:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-06-19 13:29 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 14:52 ` [PATCHv2 3/3] mm: Use updated pmdp_invalidate() inteface to track dirty/accessed bits Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 21:54 ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-15 23:02 ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-16 3:02 ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-16 13:19 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-16 13:52 ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-16 14:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-06-16 14:53 ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-19 14:03 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-20 2:52 ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-20 9:57 ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-16 11:31 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-06-16 13:21 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-16 15:57 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
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