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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] treewide: remove GFP_TEMPORARY allocation flag
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 12:27:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170728102743.GI2274@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170728095249.n62p5nhqbekjd5yn@suse.de>

On Fri 28-07-17 10:52:49, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:19:04AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> > 
> > GFP_TEMPORARY has been introduced by e12ba74d8ff3 ("Group short-lived
> > and reclaimable kernel allocations") along with __GFP_RECLAIMABLE. It's
> > primary motivation was to allow users to tell that an allocation is
> > short lived and so the allocator can try to place such allocations close
> > together and prevent long term fragmentation. As much as this sounds
> > like a reasonable semantic it becomes much less clear when to use the
> > highlevel GFP_TEMPORARY allocation flag. How long is temporary? Can
> > the context holding that memory sleep? Can it take locks? It seems
> > there is no good answer for those questions.
> > 
> > The current implementation of GFP_TEMPORARY is basically
> > GFP_KERNEL | __GFP_RECLAIMABLE which in itself is tricky because
> > basically none of the existing caller provide a way to reclaim the
> > allocated memory. So this is rather misleading and hard to evaluate for
> > any benefits.
> > 
> 
> At the time of the introduction, the users were all very short-lived
> where short was for operations such as reading a proc file that discarded
> buffers afterwards.

Maybe we can add a special slab cache for those?

> However, it does seem to have misused over the last
> few years and it was too easy to confuse "temporary" with "short lived"
> and too easy to get confused about "how short lived is short lived?". On
> that basis;
> 
> Acked-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>

Thanks!
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-28 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-28  9:19 [RFC PATCH] treewide: remove GFP_TEMPORARY allocation flag Michal Hocko
2017-07-28  9:52 ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-28 10:27   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-07-28 10:59     ` Mel Gorman
2017-07-28 13:15 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-08-23 17:57 ` Pavel Machek
2017-08-25  6:35   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-25  7:28     ` Pavel Machek
2017-08-25  8:04       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-25 21:39         ` Pavel Machek
2017-08-26  4:11           ` NeilBrown
2017-08-28 12:36             ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-31  9:07               ` Pavel Machek
2017-08-31  9:29                 ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-28 12:35           ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-31  9:10             ` Pavel Machek

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