From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: riel@redhat.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mhocko@kernel.org,
mike.kravetz@oracle.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, fweimer@redhat.com,
colm@allcosts.net, keescook@chromium.org, luto@amacapital.net,
wad@chromium.org, mingo@kernel.org, kirill@shutemov.name,
dave.hansen@intel.com, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, willy@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm,fork: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 15:51:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170815155114.ff9f4164eed28bf02db48fbb@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170811212829.29186-3-riel@redhat.com>
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 17:28:29 -0400 riel@redhat.com wrote:
> From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
>
> Introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK semantics, which result in a VMA being
> empty in the child process after fork. This differs from MADV_DONTFORK
> in one important way.
>
> If a child process accesses memory that was MADV_WIPEONFORK, it
> will get zeroes. The address ranges are still valid, they are just empty.
>
> If a child process accesses memory that was MADV_DONTFORK, it will
> get a segmentation fault, since those address ranges are no longer
> valid in the child after fork.
>
> Since MADV_DONTFORK also seems to be used to allow very large
> programs to fork in systems with strict memory overcommit restrictions,
> changing the semantics of MADV_DONTFORK might break existing programs.
>
> MADV_WIPEONFORK only works on private, anonymous VMAs.
>
> The use case is libraries that store or cache information, and
> want to know that they need to regenerate it in the child process
> after fork.
>
> Examples of this would be:
> - systemd/pulseaudio API checks (fail after fork)
> (replacing a getpid check, which is too slow without a PID cache)
> - PKCS#11 API reinitialization check (mandated by specification)
> - glibc's upcoming PRNG (reseed after fork)
> - OpenSSL PRNG (reseed after fork)
>
> The security benefits of a forking server having a re-inialized
> PRNG in every child process are pretty obvious. However, due to
> libraries having all kinds of internal state, and programs getting
> compiled with many different versions of each library, it is
> unreasonable to expect calling programs to re-initialize everything
> manually after fork.
>
> A further complication is the proliferation of clone flags,
> programs bypassing glibc's functions to call clone directly,
> and programs calling unshare, causing the glibc pthread_atfork
> hook to not get called.
>
> It would be better to have the kernel take care of this automatically.
I'll add "The patch also adds MADV_KEEPONFORK, to undo the effects of a
prior MADV_WIPEONFORK." here.
I guess it isn't worth mentioning that these things can cause VMA
merges and splits.
> --- a/mm/madvise.c
> +++ b/mm/madvise.c
> @@ -80,6 +80,17 @@ static long madvise_behavior(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> }
> new_flags &= ~VM_DONTCOPY;
> break;
> + case MADV_WIPEONFORK:
> + /* MADV_WIPEONFORK is only supported on anonymous memory. */
> + if (vma->vm_file || vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED) {
> + error = -EINVAL;
> + goto out;
> + }
> + new_flags |= VM_WIPEONFORK;
> + break;
> + case MADV_KEEPONFORK:
> + new_flags &= ~VM_WIPEONFORK;
> + break;
> case MADV_DONTDUMP:
> new_flags |= VM_DONTDUMP;
> break;
It seems odd to permit MADV_KEEPONFORK against other-than-anon vmas?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-15 22:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-11 21:28 [PATCH v4 0/2] mm,fork,security: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK riel
2017-08-11 21:28 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86,mpx: make mpx depend on x86-64 to free up VMA flag riel
2017-08-11 21:28 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,fork: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK riel
2017-08-15 22:51 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2017-08-16 2:18 ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-17 22:50 ` Andrew Morton
2017-08-18 16:28 ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-18 18:15 ` Andrew Morton
2017-08-19 0:02 ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-18 17:25 ` Mike Kravetz
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-08-11 19:19 [PATCH v3 0/2] mm,fork,security: " riel
2017-08-11 19:19 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,fork: " riel
2017-08-11 19:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-11 20:27 ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-11 20:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-06 14:04 [PATCH v2 0/2] mm,fork,security: " riel
2017-08-06 14:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,fork: " riel
2017-08-10 15:23 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 15:23 ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-11 16:36 ` Mike Kravetz
2017-08-11 16:59 ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-11 17:07 ` Mike Kravetz
2017-08-04 19:07 [PATCH 0/2] mm,fork,security: " riel
2017-08-04 19:07 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,fork: " riel
2017-08-04 23:09 ` Mike Kravetz
2017-08-05 14:05 ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-14 15:45 ` kbuild test robot
2017-08-04 19:01 [PATCH 0/2] mm,fork: MADV_WIPEONFORK - an empty VMA in the child riel
2017-08-04 19:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,fork: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK riel
2017-08-05 18:46 ` kbuild test robot
2017-08-05 19:33 ` kbuild test robot
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