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From: Tycho Andersen <tycho@docker.com>
To: Yisheng Xie <xieyisheng1@huawei.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Marco Benatto <marco.antonio.780@gmail.com>,
	Juerg Haefliger <juerg.haefliger@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 00/11] Add support for eXclusive Page Frame Ownership
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 08:02:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170911150204.nn5v5olbxyzfafou@docker> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <23e5bac9-329a-3a32-049e-7e7c9751abd0@huawei.com>

Hi Yisheng,

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 06:34:45PM +0800, Yisheng Xie wrote:
> Hi Tycho ,
> 
> On 2017/9/8 1:35, Tycho Andersen wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Here is v6 of the XPFO set; see v5 discussion here:
> > https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/8/9/803
> > 
> > Changelogs are in the individual patch notes, but the highlights are:
> > * add primitives for ensuring memory areas are mapped (although these are quite
> >   ugly, using stack allocation; I'm open to better suggestions)
> > * instead of not flushing caches, re-map pages using the above
> > * TLB flushing is much more correct (i.e. we're always flushing everything
> >   everywhere). I suspect we may be able to back this off in some cases, but I'm
> >   still trying to collect performance numbers to prove this is worth doing.
> > 
> > I have no TODOs left for this set myself, other than fixing whatever review
> > feedback people have. Thoughts and testing welcome!
> 
> According to the paper of Vasileios P. Kemerlis et al, the mainline kernel
> will not set the Pro. of physmap(direct map area) to RW(X), so do we really
> need XPFO to protect from ret2dir attack?

I guess you're talking about section 4.3? They mention that that x86
only gets rw, but that aarch64 is rwx still.

But in either case this still provides access protection, similar to
SMAP. Also, if I understand things correctly the protections are
unmanaged, so a page that had the +x bit set at some point, it could
be used for ret2dir.

Cheers,

Tycho

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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-07 17:35 [PATCH v6 00/11] Add support for eXclusive Page Frame Ownership Tycho Andersen
2017-09-07 17:35 ` [PATCH v6 01/11] mm: add MAP_HUGETLB support to vm_mmap Tycho Andersen
2017-09-08  7:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-07 17:36 ` [PATCH v6 02/11] x86: always set IF before oopsing from page fault Tycho Andersen
2017-09-07 17:36 ` [PATCH v6 03/11] mm, x86: Add support for eXclusive Page Frame Ownership (XPFO) Tycho Andersen
2017-09-07 18:33   ` Ralph Campbell
2017-09-07 18:50     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-08  7:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-08 14:58     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-09 15:35   ` Laura Abbott
2017-09-11 15:03     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-11  7:24   ` Yisheng Xie
2017-09-11 14:50     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-11 16:03       ` Juerg Haefliger
2017-09-11 16:59         ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-12  8:05         ` Yisheng Xie
2017-09-12 14:36           ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-12 18:13             ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-14  6:15               ` Yisheng Xie
2017-09-20 23:46               ` Dave Hansen
2017-09-21  0:02                 ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-21  0:04                   ` Dave Hansen
2017-09-11 18:32   ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-11 21:54     ` Marco Benatto
2017-09-20 15:48   ` Dave Hansen
2017-09-20 22:34     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-20 23:21       ` Dave Hansen
2017-09-21  0:09         ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-21  0:27           ` Dave Hansen
2017-09-21  1:37             ` Tycho Andersen
2017-11-10  1:09             ` Tycho Andersen
2017-11-13 22:20               ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-13 22:46                 ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-15  0:33                   ` [kernel-hardening] " Tycho Andersen
2017-11-15  0:37                     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-15  0:42                       ` Tycho Andersen
2017-11-15  3:44                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-11-15  7:00                     ` Dave Hansen
2017-11-15 14:58                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-11-15 16:20                         ` [kernel-hardening] " Tycho Andersen
2017-11-15 21:34                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-09-21  0:03   ` Dave Hansen
2017-09-21  0:28   ` Dave Hansen
2017-09-21  1:04     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-07 17:36 ` [PATCH v6 04/11] swiotlb: Map the buffer if it was unmapped by XPFO Tycho Andersen
2017-09-07 18:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-07 18:44     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-08  7:13       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-07 17:36 ` [PATCH v6 05/11] arm64/mm: Add support for XPFO Tycho Andersen
2017-09-08  7:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-08 17:24     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-14 10:41       ` Julien Grall
2017-09-14 11:29         ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-14 18:22   ` [kernel-hardening] " Mark Rutland
2017-09-18 21:27     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-07 17:36 ` [PATCH v6 06/11] xpfo: add primitives for mapping underlying memory Tycho Andersen
2017-09-07 17:36 ` [PATCH v6 07/11] arm64/mm, xpfo: temporarily map dcache regions Tycho Andersen
2017-09-14 18:25   ` Mark Rutland
2017-09-18 21:29     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-07 17:36 ` [PATCH v6 08/11] arm64/mm: Add support for XPFO to swiotlb Tycho Andersen
2017-09-07 17:36 ` [PATCH v6 09/11] arm64/mm: disable section/contiguous mappings if XPFO is enabled Tycho Andersen
2017-09-09 15:38   ` Laura Abbott
2017-09-07 17:36 ` [PATCH v6 10/11] mm: add a user_virt_to_phys symbol Tycho Andersen
2017-09-08  7:55   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-08 15:44     ` Kees Cook
2017-09-11  7:36       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-14 18:34   ` [kernel-hardening] " Mark Rutland
2017-09-18 20:56     ` Tycho Andersen
2017-09-07 17:36 ` [PATCH v6 11/11] lkdtm: Add test for XPFO Tycho Andersen
2017-09-07 19:08   ` Kees Cook
2017-09-10  0:57   ` kbuild test robot
2017-09-11 10:34 ` [PATCH v6 00/11] Add support for eXclusive Page Frame Ownership Yisheng Xie
2017-09-11 15:02   ` Tycho Andersen [this message]
2017-09-12  7:07     ` Yisheng Xie
2017-09-12  7:40       ` Juerg Haefliger
2017-09-12  8:11         ` Yisheng Xie

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