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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Taras Kondratiuk <takondra@cisco.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, xe-linux-external@cisco.com,
	Ruslan Ruslichenko <rruslich@cisco.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Detecting page cache trashing state
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:34:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170918163434.GA11236@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <150549651001.4512.15084374619358055097@takondra-t460s>

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Hi Taras,

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:28:30AM -0700, Taras Kondratiuk wrote:
> Quoting Michal Hocko (2017-09-15 07:36:19)
> > On Thu 14-09-17 17:16:27, Taras Kondratiuk wrote:
> > > Has somebody faced similar issue? How are you solving it?
> > 
> > Yes this is a pain point for a _long_ time. And we still do not have a
> > good answer upstream. Johannes has been playing in this area [1].
> > The main problem is that our OOM detection logic is based on the ability
> > to reclaim memory to allocate new memory. And that is pretty much true
> > for the pagecache when you are trashing. So we do not know that
> > basically whole time is spent refaulting the memory back and forth.
> > We do have some refault stats for the page cache but that is not
> > integrated to the oom detection logic because this is really a
> > non-trivial problem to solve without triggering early oom killer
> > invocations.
> > 
> > [1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20170727153010.23347-1-hannes@cmpxchg.org
> 
> Thanks Michal. memdelay looks promising. We will check it.

Great, I'm obviously interested in more users of it :) Please find
attached the latest version of the patch series based on v4.13.

It needs a bit more refactoring in the scheduler bits before
resubmission, but it already contains a couple of fixes and
improvements since the first version I sent out.

Let me know if you need help rebasing to a different kernel version.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-18 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-15  0:16 Detecting page cache trashing state Taras Kondratiuk
2017-09-15 11:55 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-15 14:22 ` Daniel Walker
2017-09-15 16:38   ` Taras Kondratiuk
2017-09-15 17:31     ` Daniel Walker
2017-09-15 14:36 ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-15 17:28   ` Taras Kondratiuk
2017-09-18 16:34     ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2017-09-19 10:55       ` [PATCH 1/3] sched/loadavg: consolidate LOAD_INT, LOAD_FRAC macros kbuild test robot
2017-09-19 11:02       ` kbuild test robot
2017-09-28 15:49       ` Detecting page cache trashing state Ruslan Ruslichenko -X (rruslich - GLOBALLOGIC INC at Cisco)
2017-10-25 16:53         ` Daniel Walker
2017-10-25 17:54         ` Johannes Weiner
2017-10-27 20:19           ` Ruslan Ruslichenko -X (rruslich - GLOBALLOGIC INC at Cisco)
2017-11-20 19:40             ` Ruslan Ruslichenko -X (rruslich - GLOBALLOGIC INC at Cisco)
2017-11-27  2:18               ` Minchan Kim
2017-10-26  3:53         ` vinayak menon
2017-10-27 20:29           ` Ruslan Ruslichenko -X (rruslich - GLOBALLOGIC INC at Cisco)
2017-09-15 21:20   ` vcaputo
2017-09-15 23:40     ` Taras Kondratiuk
2017-09-18  5:55     ` Michal Hocko

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