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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 15:17:34 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170925061734.GA27678@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bmlze319.fsf@yhuang-dev.intel.com>

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 01:54:42PM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
> Hi, Minchan,
> 
> Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> writes:
> 
> > Hi Huang,
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 09:33:10AM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
> >> From: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
> 
> [snip]
> 
> >> diff --git a/mm/Kconfig b/mm/Kconfig
> >> index 9c4bdddd80c2..e62c8e2e34ef 100644
> >> --- a/mm/Kconfig
> >> +++ b/mm/Kconfig
> >> @@ -434,6 +434,26 @@ config THP_SWAP
> >>  
> >>  	  For selection by architectures with reasonable THP sizes.
> >>  
> >> +config VMA_SWAP_READAHEAD
> >> +	bool "VMA based swap readahead"
> >> +	depends on SWAP
> >> +	default y
> >> +	help
> >> +	  VMA based swap readahead detects page accessing pattern in a
> >> +	  VMA and adjust the swap readahead window for pages in the
> >> +	  VMA accordingly.  It works better for more complex workload
> >> +	  compared with the original physical swap readahead.
> >> +
> >> +	  It can be controlled via the following sysfs interface,
> >> +
> >> +	    /sys/kernel/mm/swap/vma_ra_enabled
> >> +	    /sys/kernel/mm/swap/vma_ra_max_order
> >
> > It might be better to discuss in other thread but if you mention new
> > interface here again, I will discuss it here.
> >
> > We are creating new ABI in here so I want to ask question in here.
> >
> > Did you consier to use /sys/block/xxx/queue/read_ahead_kb for the
> > swap readahead knob? Reusing such common/consistent knob would be better
> > than adding new separate konb.
> 
> The problem is that the configuration of VMA based swap readahead is
> global instead of block device specific.  And because it works in
> virtual way, that is, the swap blocks on the different block devices may
> be readahead together.  It's a little hard to use the block device
> specific configuration.

Fair enough. page-cluster from the beginning should have been like that
instead of vma_ra_max_order.

One more questions: Do we need separate vma_ra_enable?

Can't we disable it via echo 0 > /sys/kernel/mm/swap/vma_ra_max_order
like page-cluster?

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-25  6:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-21  1:33 [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Huang, Ying
2017-09-25  5:41 ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-25  5:54   ` Huang, Ying
2017-09-25  6:17     ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2017-09-25  6:24       ` Huang, Ying
2017-09-25  6:30         ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-26 13:21 ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-27  1:36   ` Huang, Ying
2017-09-27  5:04   ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-27  7:48     ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-27  8:04       ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-27  8:35         ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-27 13:15           ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-27 13:22             ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-27 13:41               ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-27 13:50                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-27 14:10                   ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-27 14:17                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-28  1:02                       ` Huang, Ying
2017-10-02  7:23                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-02 15:45                         ` Dave Hansen
2017-10-02 21:49                           ` Andrew Morton
2017-10-06 12:28                             ` huang ying

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