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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Shaohua Li <shli@kernel.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 14:04:01 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170927050401.GA715@bbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170926132129.dbtr2mof35x4j4og@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 03:21:29PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 21-09-17 09:33:10, Huang, Ying wrote:
> > From: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
> > 
> > This patch adds a new Kconfig option VMA_SWAP_READAHEAD and wraps VMA
> > based swap readahead code inside #ifdef CONFIG_VMA_SWAP_READAHEAD/#endif.
> > This is more friendly for tiny kernels.
> 
> How (much)?
> 
> > And as pointed to by Minchan
> > Kim, give people who want to disable the swap readahead an opportunity
> > to notice the changes to the swap readahead algorithm and the
> > corresponding knobs.
> 
> Why would anyone want that?
> 
> Please note that adding new config options make the already complicated
> config space even more problematic so there should be a good reason to
> add one. Please make sure your justification is clear on why this is
> worth the future maintenance and configurability burden.

The problem is users have disabled swap readahead by echo 0 > /proc/sys/
vm/page-cluster are regressed by this new interface /sys/kernel/mm/swap/
vma_ra_max_order. Because for disabling readahead completely, they should
disable vma_ra_max_order as well as page-cluster from now on.

So, goal of new config to notice new feature to admins so they can be aware
of new konb vma_ra_max_order as well as page-cluster.
I canont think other better idea to preventing such regression.

http://lkml.kernel.org/r/%3C20170913014019.GB29422@bbox%3E

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-27  5:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-21  1:33 [PATCH] mm, swap: Make VMA based swap readahead configurable Huang, Ying
2017-09-25  5:41 ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-25  5:54   ` Huang, Ying
2017-09-25  6:17     ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-25  6:24       ` Huang, Ying
2017-09-25  6:30         ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-26 13:21 ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-27  1:36   ` Huang, Ying
2017-09-27  5:04   ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2017-09-27  7:48     ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-27  8:04       ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-27  8:35         ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-27 13:15           ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-27 13:22             ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-27 13:41               ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-27 13:50                 ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-27 14:10                   ` Minchan Kim
2017-09-27 14:17                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-28  1:02                       ` Huang, Ying
2017-10-02  7:23                         ` Michal Hocko
2017-10-02 15:45                         ` Dave Hansen
2017-10-02 21:49                           ` Andrew Morton
2017-10-06 12:28                             ` huang ying

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