linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/7] mm, fs: introduce file_operations->post_mmap()
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 13:35:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170927113527.GD25746@quack2.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4iDTNteQAt1bBHCGijwsk45rJWHfdr+e_rOwK39jpC2Og@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue 26-09-17 14:41:53, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Ross Zwisler
> <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 12:19:21PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> >> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Ross Zwisler
> > <>
> >> > This decision can only be made (in this
> >> > proposed scheme) *after* the inode->i_mapping->i_mmap  tree has been
> >> > populated, which means we need another call into the filesystem after this
> >> > insertion has happened.
> >>
> >> I get that, but it seems over-engineered and something that can also
> >> be safely cleaned up after the fact by the code path that is disabling
> >> DAX.
> >
> > I don't think you can safely clean it up after the fact because some thread
> > might have already called ->mmap() to set up the vma->vm_flags for their new
> > mapping, but they haven't added it to inode->i_mapping->i_mmap.
> 
> If madvise(MADV_NOHUGEPAGE) can dynamically change vm_flags, then the
> DAX disable path can as well. VM_MIXEDMAP looks to be a nop for normal
> memory mappings.
> 
> > The inode->i_mapping->i_mmap tree is the only way (that I know of at least)
> > that the filesystem has any idea about about the mapping.  This is the method
> > by which we would try and clean up mapping flags, if we were to do so, and
> > it's the only way that the filesystem can know whether or not mappings exist.
> >
> > The only way that I could think of to make this safely work is to have the
> > insertion into the inode->i_mapping->i_mmap tree be our sync point.  After
> > that the filesystem and the mapping code can communicate on the state of DAX,
> > but before that I think it's basically indeterminate.
> 
> If we lose the race and leak VM_HUGEPAGE to a non-DAX mapping what
> breaks? I'd rather be in favor of not setting VM_HUGEPAGE at all in
> the ->mmap() handler and let the default THP policy take over. In
> fact, see transparent_hugepage_enabled() we already auto-enable huge
> page support for dax mappings regardless of VM_HUGEPAGE.

Hum, this is an interesting option. So do you suggest that filesystems
supporting DAX would always setup mappings with VM_MIXEDMAP and without
VM_HUGEPAGE and thus we'd get rid of dependency on S_DAX flag in ->mmap?
That could actually work. The only possible issue I can see is that
VM_MIXEDMAP is still slightly different from normal page mappings and it
could have some performance implications - e.g. copy_page_range() does more
work on VM_MIXEDMAP mappings but not on normal page mappings.

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org.  For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-27 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-25 23:13 [PATCH 0/7] re-enable XFS per-inode DAX Ross Zwisler
2017-09-25 23:13 ` [PATCH 1/7] xfs: always use DAX if mount option is used Ross Zwisler
2017-09-25 23:38   ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-26  9:35     ` Jan Kara
2017-09-26 11:09       ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-26 14:37         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-26 17:30           ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-26 19:48             ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-09-26 22:00               ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-27  6:40             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-27 16:15               ` Ross Zwisler
2017-10-01  8:17                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-26 18:02         ` Eric Sandeen
2017-09-26 18:50     ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-25 23:13 ` [PATCH 2/7] xfs: validate bdev support for DAX inode flag Ross Zwisler
2017-09-26  6:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-26 17:16     ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-26 17:57       ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-09-25 23:14 ` [PATCH 3/7] xfs: protect S_DAX transitions in XFS read path Ross Zwisler
2017-09-25 23:27   ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-26  6:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-26 13:59     ` Dan Williams
2017-09-26 14:33       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-26 18:11         ` Dan Williams
2017-10-01  8:17           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-25 23:14 ` [PATCH 4/7] xfs: protect S_DAX transitions in XFS write path Ross Zwisler
2017-09-25 23:29   ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-25 23:14 ` [PATCH 5/7] xfs: introduce xfs_is_dax_state_changing Ross Zwisler
2017-09-26  6:33   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-25 23:14 ` [PATCH 6/7] mm, fs: introduce file_operations->post_mmap() Ross Zwisler
2017-09-25 23:38   ` Dan Williams
2017-09-26 18:57     ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-26 19:19       ` Dan Williams
2017-09-26 21:06         ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-26 21:41           ` Dan Williams
2017-09-27 11:35             ` Jan Kara [this message]
2017-09-27 14:00               ` Dan Williams
2017-09-27 15:07                 ` Jan Kara
2017-09-27 15:36                   ` Dan Williams
2017-09-27 15:39               ` Ross Zwisler
2017-09-27 15:54                 ` Dan Williams
2017-09-26  6:34   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-25 23:14 ` [PATCH 7/7] xfs: re-enable XFS per-inode DAX Ross Zwisler
2017-09-26  0:31   ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-26  6:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-26 19:01     ` Ross Zwisler

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20170927113527.GD25746@quack2.suse.cz \
    --to=jack@suse.cz \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=bfields@fieldses.org \
    --cc=dan.j.williams@intel.com \
    --cc=darrick.wong@oracle.com \
    --cc=david@fromorbit.com \
    --cc=hch@lst.de \
    --cc=jlayton@poochiereds.net \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org \
    --cc=linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).