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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: "�ں�ö/���ӿ�����/SW Platform(��)AOT��(byungchul.park@lge.com)"
	<byungchul.park@lge.com>
Cc: "peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"kernel-team@lge.com" <kernel-team@lge.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: Introduce CROSSRELEASE_STACK_TRACE and make it not unwind as default
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 11:41:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171019094147.n43gdh5fbp4rsjzc@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F6531D8286A0B34FBC858F176F707962027B9228C9@LGEVEXMBHQSVC1.LGE.NET>


* i? 1/2 Uoi? 1/2 A?/i? 1/2 i? 1/2 i? 1/2 O?i? 1/2 i? 1/2 i? 1/2 i? 1/2 i? 1/2 /SW Platform(i? 1/2 i? 1/2 )AOTi? 1/2 i? 1/2 (byungchul.park@lge.com) <byungchul.park@lge.com> wrote:

> I don't want to pretend I'm perfect. Of course, I can make mistakes.
> I'm just saying that *I have not seen* any crash by cross-release.
> 
> In that case you pointed out, likewise, the crash was caused by ae813308f:
> lockdep: Avoid creating redundant links, which is not related to the feature
> actually. It was also falsely accused at the time again...
> 
> Of course, it's my fault not to have made the design more robust so that
> others can modify lockdep code caring less after cross-release commit.
> That's what I'm sorry for.
> 
> I already mentioned the above in the thread talking about the issue you
> are pointing now. Of course, I basically appreciate all comments and
> suggestions you have given, but you seem to have mis-understood some
> issues wrt cross-release feature.

Two different cross-release commits got bisected to with kernel crashes:

  Sep 30 kernel test rob    | ce07a9415f ("locking/lockdep: Make check_prev_add() able to .."):  BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 00000020
  Oct 03 Fengguang Wu       | [lockdep] b09be676e0 BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 000001f2

The first crash was bisected to:

  ce07a9415f26: locking/lockdep: Make check_prev_add() able to handle external stack_trace

The second crash was bisected to:

  b09be676e0ff: locking/lockdep: Implement the 'crossrelease' feature

... and unless your argument that both bisections were bad, it doesn't matter 
where the root cause ended up being, fact is that it was not a problem free series 
and let's not pretend it was.

Note that to me it *really* does not matter that a commit causes a crash: bugs 
happen, they are part of software development done by humans - so as long as it's 
not a pattern of underlying carelessness or some development process error it's 
not something to get emotional about.

Ok?

Thanks,

	Ingo

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-19  9:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-18  9:13 [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: Introduce CROSSRELEASE_STACK_TRACE and make it not unwind as default Byungchul Park
2017-10-18  9:13 ` [PATCH 2/2] lockdep: Remove BROKEN flag of LOCKDEP_CROSSRELEASE Byungchul Park
2017-10-18 10:12   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19  1:58     ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-18 10:09 ` [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: Introduce CROSSRELEASE_STACK_TRACE and make it not unwind as default Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19  4:32   ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-19  5:57     ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19  6:11       ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-19  6:22         ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19  6:36           ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-19  8:05             ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19  6:22         ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-19  8:10           ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19  9:02             ` 박병철/선임연구원/SW Platform(연)AOT팀(byungchul.park@lge.com)
2017-10-19  9:41               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2017-10-18 13:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-18 13:30   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-18 13:36     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-18 14:15       ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-10-18 14:35         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-18 17:05           ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19  2:00       ` Byungchul Park

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