From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: "�ں�ö/���ӿ�����/SW Platform(��)AOT��(byungchul.park@lge.com)"
<byungchul.park@lge.com>
Cc: "peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"kernel-team@lge.com" <kernel-team@lge.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: Introduce CROSSRELEASE_STACK_TRACE and make it not unwind as default
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 11:41:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171019094147.n43gdh5fbp4rsjzc@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F6531D8286A0B34FBC858F176F707962027B9228C9@LGEVEXMBHQSVC1.LGE.NET>
* i? 1/2 Uoi? 1/2 A?/i? 1/2 i? 1/2 i? 1/2 O?i? 1/2 i? 1/2 i? 1/2 i? 1/2 i? 1/2 /SW Platform(i? 1/2 i? 1/2 )AOTi? 1/2 i? 1/2 (byungchul.park@lge.com) <byungchul.park@lge.com> wrote:
> I don't want to pretend I'm perfect. Of course, I can make mistakes.
> I'm just saying that *I have not seen* any crash by cross-release.
>
> In that case you pointed out, likewise, the crash was caused by ae813308f:
> lockdep: Avoid creating redundant links, which is not related to the feature
> actually. It was also falsely accused at the time again...
>
> Of course, it's my fault not to have made the design more robust so that
> others can modify lockdep code caring less after cross-release commit.
> That's what I'm sorry for.
>
> I already mentioned the above in the thread talking about the issue you
> are pointing now. Of course, I basically appreciate all comments and
> suggestions you have given, but you seem to have mis-understood some
> issues wrt cross-release feature.
Two different cross-release commits got bisected to with kernel crashes:
Sep 30 kernel test rob | ce07a9415f ("locking/lockdep: Make check_prev_add() able to .."): BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 00000020
Oct 03 Fengguang Wu | [lockdep] b09be676e0 BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 000001f2
The first crash was bisected to:
ce07a9415f26: locking/lockdep: Make check_prev_add() able to handle external stack_trace
The second crash was bisected to:
b09be676e0ff: locking/lockdep: Implement the 'crossrelease' feature
... and unless your argument that both bisections were bad, it doesn't matter
where the root cause ended up being, fact is that it was not a problem free series
and let's not pretend it was.
Note that to me it *really* does not matter that a commit causes a crash: bugs
happen, they are part of software development done by humans - so as long as it's
not a pattern of underlying carelessness or some development process error it's
not something to get emotional about.
Ok?
Thanks,
Ingo
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-19 9:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-18 9:13 [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: Introduce CROSSRELEASE_STACK_TRACE and make it not unwind as default Byungchul Park
2017-10-18 9:13 ` [PATCH 2/2] lockdep: Remove BROKEN flag of LOCKDEP_CROSSRELEASE Byungchul Park
2017-10-18 10:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19 1:58 ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-18 10:09 ` [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: Introduce CROSSRELEASE_STACK_TRACE and make it not unwind as default Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19 4:32 ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-19 5:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19 6:11 ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-19 6:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19 6:36 ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-19 8:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19 6:22 ` Byungchul Park
2017-10-19 8:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19 9:02 ` 박병철/선임연구원/SW Platform(연)AOT팀(byungchul.park@lge.com)
2017-10-19 9:41 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2017-10-18 13:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-18 13:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-18 13:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-18 14:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-10-18 14:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-18 17:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-10-19 2:00 ` Byungchul Park
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