From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
Pankaj Gupta <pagupta@redhat.com>, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
haozhong zhang <haozhong.zhang@intel.com>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
xiaoguangrong eric <xiaoguangrong.eric@gmail.com>,
KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>,
ross zwisler <ross.zwisler@intel.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Qemu Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Nitesh Narayan Lal <nilal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/2] KVM: add virtio-pmem driver
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 01:00:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171020080049.GA25471@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4j=Cdp68C15HddKaErpve2UGRfSTiL6bHiS=3gQybz9pg@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:21:26AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> The difference is that nvdimm_flush() is not mandatory, and that the
> platform will automatically perform the same flush at power-fail.
> Applications should be able to assume that if they are using MAP_SYNC
> that no other coordination with the kernel or the hypervisor is
> necessary.
>
> Advertising this as a generic Persistent Memory range to the guest
> means that the guest could theoretically use it with device-dax where
> there is no driver or filesystem sync interface. The hypervisor will
> be waiting for flush notifications and the guest will just issue cache
> flushes and sfence instructions. So, as far as I can see we need to
> differentiate this virtio-model from standard "Persistent Memory" to
> the guest and remove the possibility of guests/applications making the
> wrong assumption.
So add a flag that it is not. We already have the nd_volatile type,
that is special. For now only in Linux, but I think adding this type
to the spec eventually would be very useful for efficiently exposing
directly mappable device to VM guests.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-20 8:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-12 15:50 [RFC 0/2] KVM "fake DAX" device flushing Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 15:50 ` [RFC 1/2] pmem: Move reusable code to base header files Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 20:42 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12 21:27 ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 15:50 ` [RFC 2/2] KVM: add virtio-pmem driver Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 20:51 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12 21:25 ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 21:54 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12 22:18 ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 22:27 ` Rik van Riel
2017-10-12 22:39 ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 22:52 ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-12 22:59 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12 23:07 ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-13 9:44 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-13 10:48 ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-16 14:47 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-16 15:58 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-16 17:04 ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-13 15:25 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-17 7:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-17 7:40 ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-17 8:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-17 8:30 ` Pankaj Gupta
2017-10-18 13:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-18 15:51 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-19 8:01 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-19 8:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-19 18:21 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-20 8:00 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2017-10-20 15:05 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-20 16:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-20 16:11 ` Dan Williams
2017-10-12 15:50 ` [RFC] QEMU: Add virtio pmem device Pankaj Gupta
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