From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: "Ruslan Ruslichenko -X (rruslich - GLOBALLOGIC INC at Cisco)"
<rruslich@cisco.com>
Cc: Taras Kondratiuk <takondra@cisco.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, xe-linux-external@cisco.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Detecting page cache trashing state
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:54:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171025175424.GA14039@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <acbf4417-4ded-fa03-7b8d-34dc0803027c@cisco.com>
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Hi Ruslan,
sorry about the delayed response, I missed the new activity in this
older thread.
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 06:49:07PM +0300, Ruslan Ruslichenko -X (rruslich - GLOBALLOGIC INC at Cisco) wrote:
> Hi Johannes,
>
> Hopefully I was able to rebase the patch on top v4.9.26 (latest supported
> version by us right now)
> and test a bit.
> The overall idea definitely looks promising, although I have one question on
> usage.
> Will it be able to account the time which processes spend on handling major
> page faults
> (including fs and iowait time) of refaulting page?
That's the main thing it should measure! :)
The lock_page() and wait_on_page_locked() calls are where iowaits
happen on a cache miss. If those are refaults, they'll be counted.
> As we have one big application which code space occupies big amount of place
> in page cache,
> when the system under heavy memory usage will reclaim some of it, the
> application will
> start constantly thrashing. Since it code is placed on squashfs it spends
> whole CPU time
> decompressing the pages and seem memdelay counters are not detecting this
> situation.
> Here are some counters to indicate this:
>
> 19:02:44 CPU %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle
> 19:02:45 all 0.00 0.00 100.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
>
> 19:02:44 pgpgin/s pgpgout/s fault/s majflt/s pgfree/s pgscank/s
> pgscand/s pgsteal/s %vmeff
> 19:02:45 15284.00 0.00 428.00 352.00 19990.00 0.00 0.00
> 15802.00 0.00
>
> And as nobody actively allocating memory anymore looks like memdelay
> counters are not
> actively incremented:
>
> [:~]$ cat /proc/memdelay
> 268035776
> 6.13 5.43 3.58
> 1.90 1.89 1.26
How does it correlate with /proc/vmstat::workingset_activate during
that time? It only counts thrashing time of refaults it can actively
detect.
Btw, how many CPUs does this system have? There is a bug in this
version on how idle time is aggregated across multiple CPUs. The error
compounds with the number of CPUs in the system.
I'm attaching 3 bugfixes that go on top of what you have. There might
be some conflicts, but they should be minor variable naming issues.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-25 17:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-15 0:16 Detecting page cache trashing state Taras Kondratiuk
2017-09-15 11:55 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2017-09-15 14:22 ` Daniel Walker
2017-09-15 16:38 ` Taras Kondratiuk
2017-09-15 17:31 ` Daniel Walker
2017-09-15 14:36 ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-15 17:28 ` Taras Kondratiuk
2017-09-18 16:34 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-09-19 10:55 ` [PATCH 1/3] sched/loadavg: consolidate LOAD_INT, LOAD_FRAC macros kbuild test robot
2017-09-19 11:02 ` kbuild test robot
2017-09-28 15:49 ` Detecting page cache trashing state Ruslan Ruslichenko -X (rruslich - GLOBALLOGIC INC at Cisco)
2017-10-25 16:53 ` Daniel Walker
2017-10-25 17:54 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2017-10-27 20:19 ` Ruslan Ruslichenko -X (rruslich - GLOBALLOGIC INC at Cisco)
2017-11-20 19:40 ` Ruslan Ruslichenko -X (rruslich - GLOBALLOGIC INC at Cisco)
2017-11-27 2:18 ` Minchan Kim
2017-10-26 3:53 ` vinayak menon
2017-10-27 20:29 ` Ruslan Ruslichenko -X (rruslich - GLOBALLOGIC INC at Cisco)
2017-09-15 21:20 ` vcaputo
2017-09-15 23:40 ` Taras Kondratiuk
2017-09-18 5:55 ` Michal Hocko
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