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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com,
	dave.hansen@intel.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, mgorman@suse.de,
	mhocko@kernel.org, pmladek@suse.com,
	sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com, vbabka@suse.cz
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance console writes
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 22:29:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171108222905.426fc73a@vmware.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171109005635.GA775@jagdpanzerIV>

On Thu, 9 Nov 2017 09:56:35 +0900
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Steven,
> 
> On (11/08/17 09:29), Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 14:19:55 +0900
> > Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > the change goes further. I did express some of my concerns during the KS,
> > > I'll just bring them to the list.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > we now always shift printing from a save - scheduleable - context to
> > > a potentially unsafe one - atomic. by example:  
> > 
> > And vice versa. We are now likely to go from a unscheduleable context
> > to a schedule one, where before, that didn't exist.  
> 
> the existence of "and vice versa" is kinda alarming, isn't it? it's sort
> of "yes, we can break some things, but we also can improve some things."

Not really. Because the heuristic is that what calls printk will do the
printk.

> 
> > And my approach, makes it more likely that the task doing the printk
> > prints its own message, and less likely to print someone else's.
> >   
> > > 
> > > CPU0			CPU1~CPU10	CPU11
> > > 
> > > console_lock()
> > > 
> > > 			printk();
> > > 
> > > console_unlock()			IRQ
> > >  set console_owner			printk()
> > > 					 sees console_owner
> > > 					 set console_waiter
> > >  sees console_waiter
> > >  break
> > > 					 console_unlock()
> > > 					 ^^^^ lockup [?]  
> > 
> > How?  
> 
> oh, yes, the missing part - assume CPU1~CPU10 did 5000 printk() calls,
> while console_sem was locked on CPU0. then we console_unlock() from CPU0
> and shortly after IRQ->printk() from CPU11 forcibly takes over, so now
> we are in console_unlock() from atomic, printing some 5000 messages.

I'd say remove those 5000 printks ;-)

-- Steve

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-09  3:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-02 17:45 [PATCH v3] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance console writes Steven Rostedt
2017-11-02 22:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-03  3:15   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-11-04  3:13     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-11-03  4:09   ` John Hubbard
2017-11-03 11:21     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-11-03 11:54       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-11-03 11:54         ` Steven Rostedt
2017-11-03 21:46         ` John Hubbard
2017-11-04  3:34           ` John Hubbard
2017-11-04  8:32             ` [PATCH v3] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to loadbalance " Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-04  8:43               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-06 12:06 ` [PATCH v3] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance " Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-07  1:40   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-11-07 11:05     ` [PATCH v3] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to loadbalance " Tetsuo Handa
2017-11-08  5:19     ` [PATCH v3] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance " Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-11-08 14:29       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-11-09  0:56         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-11-09  3:29           ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2017-11-09  4:45             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-11-09  5:06               ` Steven Rostedt
2017-11-09  5:33                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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