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From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] TESTING! KVM: x86: add invalidate_range mmu notifier
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:24:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171203172447.GQ8063@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4e0b6e81-b987-487e-b582-4d61aec9252d@redhat.com>

On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 04:15:37PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 30/11/2017 19:05, Radim KrA?mA!A? wrote:
> > Does roughly what kvm_mmu_notifier_invalidate_page did before.
> > 
> > I am not certain why this would be needed.  It might mean that we have
> > another bug with start/end or just that I missed something.
> 
> I don't think this is needed, because we don't have shared page tables.
> My understanding is that without shared page tables, you can assume that
> all page modifications go through invalidate_range_start/end.  With
> shared page tables, there are additional TLB flushes to take care of,
> which require invalidate_range.

Agreed, invalidate_range only is ever needed if you the secondary MMU
(i.e. KVM) shares the same pagetables of the primary MMU in the
host. Only in such case we need a special secondary MMU invalidate in
the tlb gather before the page is freed because there's no way to
block the secondary MMU from walking the host pagetables in
invalidate_range_start.

In KVM case the secondary MMU always go through the shadow pagetables,
so all shadow pagetable invalidates can happen in
invalidate_range_start and patch 2/2 is not needed here.

Note that the host kernel could have always decided to call
invalidate_range_start/end and never to call invalidate_page even
before invalidate_page was removed.

So the problem in practice could only be noticed after the removal of
invalidate_page of course, but in more theoretical terms 1/2 is
actually fixing a longstanding bug. The removal of invalidate_page
made the lack of kvm_arch_mmu_notifier_invalidate_page call in
invalidate_range_start more apparent.

Thanks,
Andrea

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-03 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-29 23:54 [PATCH 00/13] mmu_notifier kill invalidate_page callback Jérôme Glisse
2017-08-29 23:54 ` [PATCH 01/13] dax: update to new mmu_notifier semantic Jérôme Glisse
2017-08-29 23:54 ` [PATCH 02/13] mm/rmap: " Jérôme Glisse
2017-08-30  2:46   ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-30  2:59     ` Jerome Glisse
2017-08-30  3:16       ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-30  3:18         ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-30 17:27     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-08-30 18:00       ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-30 21:25         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-08-30 23:25           ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-31  0:47             ` Jerome Glisse
2017-08-31 17:12               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-08-31 19:15                 ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-30 18:20       ` Jerome Glisse
2017-08-30 18:40         ` Nadav Amit
2017-08-30 20:45           ` Jerome Glisse
2017-08-30 22:17             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-08-30 20:55           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-08-30 16:52   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-08-30 17:48     ` Jerome Glisse
2017-08-30 21:53     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-30 23:01       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-08-31 18:25         ` Jerome Glisse
2017-08-31 19:40           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-29 23:54 ` [PATCH 03/13] powerpc/powernv: " Jérôme Glisse
2017-08-29 23:54 ` [PATCH 04/13] drm/amdgpu: " Jérôme Glisse
2017-08-30  6:18   ` Christian König
2017-08-29 23:54 ` [PATCH 05/13] IB/umem: " Jérôme Glisse
2017-08-30  6:13   ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-29 23:54 ` [PATCH 06/13] IB/hfi1: " Jérôme Glisse
2017-09-06 14:08   ` Arumugam, Kamenee
2017-08-29 23:54 ` [PATCH 07/13] iommu/amd: " Jérôme Glisse
2017-08-29 23:54 ` [PATCH 08/13] iommu/intel: " Jérôme Glisse
2017-08-29 23:54 ` [PATCH 09/13] misc/mic/scif: " Jérôme Glisse
2017-08-29 23:54 ` [PATCH 10/13] sgi-gru: " Jérôme Glisse
2017-08-29 23:54 ` [PATCH 11/13] xen/gntdev: " Jérôme Glisse
2017-08-30 19:32   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-08-29 23:54 ` [PATCH 12/13] KVM: " Jérôme Glisse
2017-08-29 23:54 ` [PATCH 13/13] mm/mmu_notifier: kill invalidate_page Jérôme Glisse
2017-08-30  0:11 ` [PATCH 00/13] mmu_notifier kill invalidate_page callback Linus Torvalds
2017-08-30  0:56   ` Jerome Glisse
2017-08-30  8:40     ` Mike Galbraith
2017-08-30 14:57     ` Adam Borowski
2017-09-01 14:47       ` Jeff Cook
2017-09-01 14:50         ` taskboxtester
2017-11-30  9:33 ` BSOD with " Fabian Grünbichler
2017-11-30 11:20   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-11-30 16:19     ` Radim Krčmář
2017-11-30 18:05       ` [PATCH 1/2] KVM: x86: fix APIC page invalidation Radim Krčmář
2017-11-30 18:05         ` [PATCH 2/2] TESTING! KVM: x86: add invalidate_range mmu notifier Radim Krčmář
2017-12-01 15:15           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-12-03 17:24             ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2017-12-01 12:21         ` [PATCH 1/2] KVM: x86: fix APIC page invalidation Fabian Grünbichler
2017-12-01 15:27         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-12-03 17:28         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-12-06  2:32         ` Wanpeng Li
2017-12-06  9:50           ` 王金浦
2017-12-06 10:00             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-12-06  8:15         ` Fabian Grünbichler
2017-12-13 12:54         ` Richard Purdie

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