From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Nitin Gupta <nitingupta910@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: Reduce memory bloat with THP
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:49:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180119124957.GA6584@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1516318444-30868-1-git-send-email-nitingupta910@gmail.com>
On Thu 18-01-18 15:33:16, Nitin Gupta wrote:
> From: Nitin Gupta <nitin.m.gupta@oracle.com>
>
> Currently, if the THP enabled policy is "always", or the mode
> is "madvise" and a region is marked as MADV_HUGEPAGE, a hugepage
> is allocated on a page fault if the pud or pmd is empty. This
> yields the best VA translation performance, but increases memory
> consumption if some small page ranges within the huge page are
> never accessed.
Yes, this is true but hardly unexpected for MADV_HUGEPAGE or THP always
users.
> An alternate behavior for such page faults is to install a
> hugepage only when a region is actually found to be (almost)
> fully mapped and active. This is a compromise between
> translation performance and memory consumption. Currently there
> is no way for an application to choose this compromise for the
> page fault conditions above.
Is that really true? We have /sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/khugepaged/max_ptes_none
This is not reflected during the PF of course but you can control the
behavior there as well. Either by the global setting or a per proces
prctl.
> With this change, whenever an application issues MADV_DONTNEED on a
> memory region, the region is marked as "space-efficient". For such
> regions, a hugepage is not immediately allocated on first write.
Kirill didn't like it in the previous version and I do not like this
either. You are adding a very subtle side effect which might completely
unexpected. Consider userspace memory allocator which uses MADV_DONTNEED
to free up unused memory. Now you have put it out of THP usage
basically.
If the memory is used really scarce then we have MADV_NOHUGEPAGE.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-19 12:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-18 23:33 [PATCH v2] mm: Reduce memory bloat with THP Nitin Gupta
2018-01-19 12:49 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-01-19 20:59 ` Nitin Gupta
2018-01-25 0:47 ` Zi Yan
2018-01-25 19:41 ` Nitin Gupta
2018-01-25 21:13 ` Mel Gorman
2018-02-01 1:09 ` Nitin Gupta
2018-02-01 10:09 ` Mel Gorman
2018-02-01 10:27 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-02-01 10:46 ` Mel Gorman
2018-01-25 22:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-25 9:58 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-25 22:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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