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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	rientjes@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, guro@fb.com,
	tj@kernel.org, vdavydov.dev@gmail.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mm,page_alloc: wait for oom_lock than back off
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 12:21:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180321112124.GF23100@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201803211939.EFG92060.tFSHOFQFOMJLOV@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Wed 21-03-18 19:39:32, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > But since Michal is still worrying that adding a single synchronization
> > > > point into the OOM path is risky (without showing a real life example
> > > > where lock_killable() in the coldest OOM path hurts), changes made by
> > > > this patch will be enabled only when oom_compat_mode=0 kernel command line
> > > > parameter is specified so that users can test whether their workloads get
> > > > hurt by this patch.
> > > > 
> > > Nacked with passion. This is absolutely hideous. First of all there is
> > > absolutely no need for the kernel command line. That is just trying to
> > > dance around the fact that you are not able to argue for the change
> > > and bring reasonable arguments on the table. We definitely do not want
> > > two subtly different modes for the oom handling. Secondly, and repeatedly,
> > > you are squashing multiple changes into a single patch. And finally this
> > > is too big of a hammer for something that even doesn't solve the problem
> > > for PREEMPTIVE kernels which are free to schedule regardless of the
> > > sleep or the reclaim retry you are so passion about.
> > 
> > So, where is your version? Offload to a kernel thread like the OOM reaper?
> > Get rid of oom_lock? Just rejecting my proposal makes no progress.
> > 
> Did you come up with some idea?
> Even CONFIG_PREEMPT=y, as far as I tested, v2 patch significantly reduces stalls than now.
> I believe there is no valid reason not to test my v2 patch at linux-next.

There are and I've mentioned them in my review feedback.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-21 11:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-22 13:46 [PATCH] mm,oom: Don't call schedule_timeout_killable() with oom_lock held Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-23  8:38 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-23 12:07   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-23 12:42     ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-24 13:28       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-13 11:58         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-20 13:32           ` [PATCH] mm,page_alloc: wait for oom_lock than back off Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-20 13:40             ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-20 14:12               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-20 14:49             ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-21 14:27               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-22 13:06                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-24  8:00                   ` [PATCH v2] " Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-26  9:27                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-26 10:58                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-26 12:19                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-26 13:16                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-03-02 11:10                             ` [PATCH v3] " Tetsuo Handa
2018-03-02 14:10                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-03  3:15                                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-03-21 10:39                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-03-21 11:21                                     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-03-21 11:35                                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-03-21 12:00                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-03-21 12:20                                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-03-21 12:31                                             ` Michal Hocko

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