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From: Sasha Levin <Alexander.Levin@microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL for 4.14 015/161] printk: Add console owner and
 waiter logic to load balance console writes
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:31:09 +0000
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To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
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On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 12:22:44PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:14:15 +0000
>Sasha Levin <Alexander.Levin@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> Since the rate we're seeing now with AUTOSEL is similar to what we were
>> seeing before AUTOSEL, what's the problem it's causing?
>
>Does that mean we just doubled the rate of regressions? That's the
>problem.

No, the rate stayed the same :)

If before ~2% of stable commits were buggy, this is still the case with
AUTOSEL.

>>
>> How do you know if a bug bothers someone?
>>
>> If a user is annoyed by a LED issue, is he expected to triage the bug,
>> report it on LKML and patiently wait for the appropriate patch to be
>> backported?
>
>Yes.

I'm honestly not sure how to respond.

Let me ask my wife (who is happy using Linux as a regular desktop user)
how comfortable she would be with triaging kernel bugs...=