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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@lip6.fr>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <mawilcox@microsoft.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	cocci@systeme.lip6.fr, Himanshu Jha <himanshujha199640@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: Add kvmalloc_ab_c and kvzalloc_struct
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 13:16:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180430201607.GA7041@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5j+N9tt4rxaUMxoZnE-ziqU_yu-jkt-cBZ=R8wmYq6XBTg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 12:02:14PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 1:30 PM, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 09:59:27AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> >> Did this ever happen?
> >
> > Not yet.  I brought it up at LSFMM, and I'll repost the patches soon.
> >
> >> I'd also like to see kmalloc_array_3d() or
> >> something that takes three size arguments. We have a lot of this
> >> pattern too:
> >>
> >> kmalloc(sizeof(foo) * A * B, gfp...)
> >>
> >> And we could turn that into:
> >>
> >> kmalloc_array_3d(sizeof(foo), A, B, gfp...)
> >
> > Are either of A or B constant?  Because if so, we could just use
> > kmalloc_array.  If not, then kmalloc_array_3d becomes a little more
> > expensive than kmalloc_array because we have to do a divide at runtime
> > instead of compile-time.  that's still better than allocating too few
> > bytes, of course.
> 
> Yeah, getting the order of the division is nice. Some thoughts below...
> 
> >
> > I'm wondering how far down the abc + ab + ac + bc + d rabbit-hole we're
> > going to end up going.  As far as we have to, I guess.
> 
> Well, the common patterns I've seen so far are:
> 
> a
> ab
> abc
> a + bc
> ab + cd
> 
> For any longer multiplications, I've only found[1]:
> 
> drivers/staging/rtl8188eu/os_dep/osdep_service.c:       void **a =
> kzalloc(h * sizeof(void *) + h * w * size, GFP_KERNEL);

That's pretty good, although it's just an atrocious vendor driver and
it turns out all of those things are constants, and it'd be far better
off with just declaring an array.  I bet they used to declare one on
the stack ...

> At the end of the day, though, I don't really like having all these
> different names...
> 
> kmalloc(), kmalloc_array(), kmalloc_ab_c(), kmalloc_array_3d()
> 
> with their "matching" zeroing function:
> 
> kzalloc(), kcalloc(), kzalloc_ab_c(), kmalloc_array_3d(..., gfp | __GFP_ZERO)

Yes, it's not very regular.

> For the multiplication cases, I wonder if we could just have:
> 
> kmalloc_multN(gfp, a, b, c, ...)
> kzalloc_multN(gfp, a, b, c, ...)
> 
> and we can replace all kcalloc() users with kzalloc_mult2(), all
> kmalloc_array() users with kmalloc_mult2(), the abc uses with
> kmalloc_mult3().

I'm reluctant to do away with kcalloc() as it has the obvious heritage
from user-space calloc() with the addition of GFP flags.

> That said, I *do* like kmalloc_struct() as it's a very common pattern...

Thanks!  And way harder to misuse than kmalloc_ab_c().

> Or maybe, just leave the pattern in the name? kmalloc_ab(),
> kmalloc_abc(), kmalloc_ab_c(), kmalloc_ab_cd() ?
> 
> Getting the constant ordering right could be part of the macro
> definition, maybe? i.e.:
> 
> static inline void *kmalloc_ab(size_t a, size_t b, gfp_t flags)
> {
>     if (__builtin_constant_p(a) && a != 0 && \
>         b > SIZE_MAX / a)
>             return NULL;
>     else if (__builtin_constant_p(b) && b != 0 && \
>                a > SIZE_MAX / b)
>             return NULL;
> 
>     return kmalloc(a * b, flags);
> }

Ooh, if neither a nor b is constant, it just didn't do a check ;-(  This
stuff is hard.

> (I just wish C had a sensible way to catch overflow...)

Every CPU I ever worked with had an "overflow" bit ... do we have a
friend on the C standards ctte who might figure out a way to let us
write code that checks it?

> -Kees
> 
> [1] git grep -E 'alloc\([^,]+[^(]\*[^)][^,]+[^(]\*[^)][^,]+[^(]\*[^)][^,]+,'

I'm impressed, but it's not going to catch

	veryLongPointerNameThatsMeaningfulToMe = kmalloc(initialSize +
		numberOfEntries * entrySize + someOtherThing * yourMum,
		GFP_KERNEL);

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-30 20:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-14 18:26 [PATCH 0/2] Add kvzalloc_struct to complement kvzalloc_array Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-14 18:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: Add kernel-doc for kvfree Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-14 18:26 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: Add kvmalloc_ab_c and kvzalloc_struct Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-14 19:22   ` Kees Cook
2018-02-14 19:27     ` Julia Lawall
2018-02-14 19:35     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-07 21:18     ` Julia Lawall
2018-03-08  2:58       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-08  6:24         ` Julia Lawall
2018-03-08 23:05           ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-09  5:59             ` Julia Lawall
2018-03-13 17:19             ` Julia Lawall
2018-03-13 18:32               ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-03-13 18:35                 ` Julia Lawall
2018-04-29 16:59                 ` Kees Cook
2018-04-29 20:30                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-04-30 19:02                     ` Kees Cook
2018-04-30 20:16                       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2018-04-30 21:29                         ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-04-30 22:41                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-01 17:00                           ` Kees Cook
2018-05-01 17:41                             ` Julia Lawall
2018-05-03 23:00                             ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-05-04  0:36                               ` Kees Cook
2018-05-04  0:40                                 ` Kees Cook
2018-04-30 22:29                         ` Kees Cook
2018-02-14 19:55   ` Christopher Lameter
2018-02-14 20:14     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-15 15:55       ` Christopher Lameter
2018-02-15 16:23         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-15 17:06           ` Christopher Lameter
2018-02-22  1:28             ` Kees Cook
2018-05-04  7:42   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-04 13:14     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-04 15:35       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-04 16:03         ` Kees Cook
2018-02-14 18:47 ` [PATCH 0/2] Add kvzalloc_struct to complement kvzalloc_array Joe Perches
2018-02-14 19:23   ` Kees Cook
2018-02-14 19:32     ` Joe Perches
2018-02-14 19:36       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-14 19:43         ` Joe Perches
2018-02-14 19:56           ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-02-14 20:06             ` Joe Perches

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