From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
Cc: jing xia <jing.xia.mail@gmail.com>,
Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
agk@redhat.com, dm-devel@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: dm bufio: Reduce dm_bufio_lock contention
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 12:43:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180619104312.GD13685@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1806181003560.4201@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com>
On Mon 18-06-18 18:11:26, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
[...]
> I grepped the kernel for __GFP_NORETRY and triaged them. I found 16 cases
> without a fallback - those are bugs that make various functions randomly
> return -ENOMEM.
Well, maybe those are just optimistic attempts to allocate memory and
have a fallback somewhere else. So I would be careful calling them
outright bugs. But maybe you are right.
> Most of the callers provide callback.
>
> There is another strange flag - __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL - it provides two
> different functions - if the allocation is larger than
> PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER, it retries the allocation as if it were smaller.
> If the allocations is smaller than PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER,
> __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL will avoid the oom killer (larger order allocations
> don't trigger the oom killer at all).
Well, the primary purpose of this flag is to provide a consistent
failure behavior for all requests regardless of the size.
> So, perhaps __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL could be used instead of __GFP_NORETRY in
> the cases where the caller wants to avoid trigerring the oom killer (the
> problem is that __GFP_NORETRY causes random failure even in no-oom
> situations but __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL doesn't).
myabe yes.
> So my suggestion is - fix these obvious bugs when someone allocates memory
> with __GFP_NORETRY without any fallback - and then, __GFP_NORETRY could be
> just changed to return NULL instead of sleeping.
No real objection to fixing wrong __GFP_NORETRY usage. But __GFP_NORETRY
can sleep. Nothing will really change in that regards. It does a
reclaim and that _might_ sleep.
But seriously, isn't the best way around the throttling issue to use
PF_LESS_THROTTLE?
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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2018-06-14 18:34 ` dm bufio: Reduce dm_bufio_lock contention Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-15 7:32 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-15 11:35 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-15 11:55 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-15 12:47 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-15 13:09 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-18 22:11 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-19 10:43 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-06-22 1:17 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-22 9:01 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-22 9:09 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-22 12:52 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-22 13:05 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-22 18:57 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-25 9:09 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-25 13:53 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-25 14:14 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-25 14:42 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-25 14:57 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-29 2:43 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-29 8:29 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-22 12:44 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-22 13:10 ` Michal Hocko
2018-06-22 18:46 ` Mikulas Patocka
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