From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Zi Yan <zi.yan@cs.rutgers.edu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: thp: fix transparent_hugepage/defrag = madvise || always
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2018 11:32:14 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180820153214.GC13047@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6D0E157B-3ECC-4642-BF98-FEB884D49854@cs.rutgers.edu>
Hello,
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 08:35:17AM -0400, Zi Yan wrote:
> I think this can also be triggered in khugepaged. In collapse_huge_page(), khugepaged_alloc_page()
> would also cause DIRECT_RECLAIM if defrag==always, since GFP_TRANSHUGE implies __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM.
>
> But is it an expected behavior of khugepaged?
That's a good point, and answer it not obvious. It's not an apple to
apple comparison because khugepaged is not increasing the overall
memory footprint of the app. The pages that gets compacted gets freed
later. However not all memory of the node may be possible to compact
100% so it's not perfectly a 1:1 exchange and it could require some
swap to succeed compaction.
So we may want to look also at khugepaged later, but it's not obvious
it needs fixing too. It'd weaken a bit khugepaged to add
__GFP_COMPACT_ONLY to it, if compaction returns COMPACT_SKIPPED
especially.
As opposed in the main allocation path (when memory footprint
definitely increases) I even tried to still allow reclaim only for
COMPACT_SKIPPED and it still caused swapout storms because new THP
kept being added to the local node as the old memory was swapped out
to make more free memory to compact more 4k pages. Otherwise I could
have gotten away with using __GFP_NORETRY instead of
__GFP_COMPACT_ONLY but it wasn't nearly enough.
Similarly to khugepaged NUMA balancing also uses __GFP_THISNODE but if
it decided to migrate a page to such node supposedly there's a good
reason to call reclaim to allocate the page there if needed. That also
is freeing memory on node and adding memory to another node, and it's
not increasing the memory footprint overall (unlike khugepaged, it
increases the footprint cross-node though).
Thanks,
Andrea
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-20 15:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-20 3:22 [PATCH 0/2] fix for "pathological THP behavior" Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20 3:22 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: thp: consolidate policy_nodemask call Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20 3:22 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: thp: fix transparent_hugepage/defrag = madvise || always Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20 3:26 ` [PATCH 0/1] fix for "pathological THP behavior" v2 Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20 3:26 ` [PATCH 1/1] mm: thp: fix transparent_hugepage/defrag = madvise || always Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20 12:35 ` [PATCH 2/2] " Zi Yan
2018-08-20 15:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2018-08-21 11:50 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-21 21:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-22 9:02 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-22 11:07 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-22 14:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-22 14:45 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-22 15:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-23 10:50 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-22 15:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-23 10:52 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-28 7:53 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-28 8:18 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-28 8:54 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2018-08-29 11:11 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
[not found] ` <D5F4A33C-0A37-495C-9468-D6866A862097@cs.rutgers.edu>
2018-08-29 14:28 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 14:35 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 15:22 ` Zi Yan
2018-08-29 15:47 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 16:06 ` Zi Yan
2018-08-29 16:25 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 19:24 ` [PATCH] mm, thp: relax __GFP_THISNODE for MADV_HUGEPAGE mappings Michal Hocko
2018-08-29 22:54 ` Zi Yan
2018-08-30 7:00 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-30 13:22 ` Zi Yan
2018-08-30 13:45 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-30 14:02 ` Zi Yan
2018-08-30 16:19 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2018-08-30 16:40 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-05 3:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-09-05 7:08 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06 11:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-09-06 11:16 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-09-06 11:25 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06 12:35 ` Zi Yan
2018-09-06 10:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-09-06 11:17 ` Zi Yan
2018-08-30 6:47 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06 11:18 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-09-06 11:27 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-12 17:29 ` Mel Gorman
2018-09-17 6:11 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-17 7:04 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2018-09-17 9:32 ` Stefan Priebe - Profihost AG
2018-09-17 11:27 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-20 11:58 ` [PATCH 0/2] fix for "pathological THP behavior" Kirill A. Shutemov
2018-08-20 15:19 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-21 15:30 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-08-21 17:26 ` David Rientjes
2018-08-21 22:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-21 22:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-22 9:24 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-22 15:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-08-20 19:06 ` Yang Shi
2018-08-20 23:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20180820153214.GC13047@redhat.com \
--to=aarcange@redhat.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=alex.williamson@redhat.com \
--cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
--cc=rientjes@google.com \
--cc=vbabka@suse.cz \
--cc=zi.yan@cs.rutgers.edu \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).