From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] mm, oom: Fix unnecessary killing of additional processes.
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 10:03:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180822080342.GE29735@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1808211016400.258924@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On Tue 21-08-18 10:20:00, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Aug 2018, Michal Hocko wrote:
>
> > > Ok, so it appears you're suggesting a per-mm counter of oom reaper retries
> > > and once it reaches a certain threshold, either give up and set
> > > MMF_OOM_SKIP or declare that exit_mmap() is responsible for it. That's
> > > fine, but obviously I'll be suggesting that the threshold is rather large.
> > > So if I adjust my patch to be a retry counter rather than timestamp, do
> > > you have any other reservations?
> >
> > It absolutely has to be an internal thing without any user API to be
> > set. Also I still haven't heard any specific argument why would oom
> > reaper need to do per-task attempt and loop over all victims on the
> > list. Maybe you have some examples though.
> >
>
> It would be per-mm in this case, the task itself is no longer important
> other than printing to the kernel log. I think we could simply print that
> the oom reaper has reaped mm->owner.
>
> The oom reaper would need to loop over the per-mm list because the retry
> counter is going to have a high threshold so that processes have the
> ability to free their memory before the oom reaper declares it can no
> longer make forward progress.
What do you actually mean by a high threshold?
> We cannot stall trying to reap a single mm
> with a high retry threshold from a memcg hierarchy when another memcg
> hierarchy is also oom. The ability for one victim to make forward
> progress can depend on a lock held by another oom memcg hierarchy where
> reaping would allow it to be dropped.
Could you be more specific please?
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-22 8:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-04 13:29 [PATCH 1/4] mm, oom: Remove wake_oom_reaper() Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-04 13:29 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm, oom: Check pending victims earlier in out_of_memory() Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-04 13:29 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm, oom: Remove unused "abort" path Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-04 13:29 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm, oom: Fix unnecessary killing of additional processes Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-06 13:45 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-06 20:19 ` David Rientjes
2018-08-06 20:51 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-09 20:16 ` David Rientjes
2018-08-10 9:07 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-10 10:54 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-10 11:16 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-11 3:12 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-14 11:33 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-19 14:23 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-20 5:54 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-20 22:03 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-21 6:16 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-21 13:39 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-19 23:45 ` David Rientjes
2018-08-20 6:07 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-20 21:31 ` David Rientjes
2018-08-21 6:09 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-21 17:20 ` David Rientjes
2018-08-22 8:03 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-08-22 20:54 ` David Rientjes
2018-09-01 11:48 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-06 11:35 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06 11:50 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-06 12:05 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06 13:40 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-06 13:56 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06 14:06 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-06 14:16 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-06 21:13 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-07 11:10 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-07 11:36 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-09-07 11:51 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-07 13:30 ` Tetsuo Handa
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