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From: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
To: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mhocko@suse.com, rientjes@google.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] mm/sparse: add likely to mem_section[root] check in sparse_index_init()
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 22:27:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180903222732.v52zdya2c2hkff7n@master> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180824150717.GA10093@WeideMacBook-Pro.local>

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 11:07:17PM +0800, Wei Yang wrote:
>On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 05:11:48PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>On 08/23/2018 06:07 AM, Wei Yang wrote:
>>> --- a/mm/sparse.c
>>> +++ b/mm/sparse.c
>>> @@ -78,7 +78,7 @@ static int __meminit sparse_index_init(unsigned long section_nr, int nid)
>>>  	unsigned long root = SECTION_NR_TO_ROOT(section_nr);
>>>  	struct mem_section *section;
>>>  
>>> -	if (mem_section[root])
>>> +	if (likely(mem_section[root]))
>>>  		return -EEXIST;
>>
>>We could add likely()/unlikely() to approximately a billion if()s around
>>the kernel if we felt like it.  We don't because it's messy and it
>>actually takes away choices from the compiler.
>>
>>Please don't send patches like this unless you have some *actual*
>>analysis that shows the benefit of the patch.  Performance numbers are best.
>

Hi, 

Is my analysis reasonable? Or which part is not valid?

>Thanks all for your comments, Michal, Dave and Oscar.
>
>Well, maybe I took it for granted, so let me put more words on this. To be
>honest, my analysis maybe partially effective, so if the cost is higher than
>the gain, please let me know.
>
>Below is my analysis and test result for this patch.
>------------------------------------------------------
>
>During bootup, the call flow looks like this.
>
>    sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions()
>        memory_present()
>            sparse_index_init()
>
>sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions() iterates on pfn continuously for
>the whole system RAM, which leads to sparse_index_init() will iterate
>section_nr continuously. Usually, we don't expect many large holes, right?
>
>Each time when mem_section[root] is null, SECTIONS_PER_ROOT number of
>mem_section will be allocated. This means, for SECTIONS_PER_ROOT number of
>check, only the first check is false. So the possibility to be false is 
>(1 / SECTIONS_PER_ROOT).
>
>SECTIONS_PER_ROOT is defined as (PAGE_SIZE / sizeof (struct mem_section)).
>
>On my x86_64 machine, PAGE_SIZE is 4KB and mem_section is 16B.
>
>    SECTIONS_PER_ROOT = 4K / 16 = 256.
>
>So the check for mem_section[root] is (1 / 256) chance to be invalid and
>(255 / 256) valid. In theory, this value seems to be a "likely" to me.
>
>In practice, when the system RAM is multiple times of
>((1 << SECTION_SIZE_BITS) * SECTIONS_PER_ROOT), the "likely" chance is
>(255 / 256), otherwise the chance would be less. 
>
>On my x86_64 machine, SECTION_SIZE_BITS is defined to 27.
>
>    ((1 << SECTION_SIZE_BITS) * SECTIONS_PER_ROOT) = 32GB
>
>          System RAM size       32G         16G        8G         4G
>      Possibility          (255 / 256) (127 / 128) (63 / 64)  (31 / 32)
>
>Generally, in my mind, if we iterate pfn continuously and there is no large
>holes, the check on mem_section[root] is likely to be true.
>
>At last, here is the test result on my 4G virtual machine. I added printk
>before and after sparse_memory_present_with_active_regions() and tested three
>times with/without "likely".
>
>                without      with
>     Elapsed   0.000252     0.000250   -0.8%
>
>The benefit seems to be too small on a 4G virtual machine or even this is not
>stable. Not sure we can see some visible effect on a 32G machine.
>
>
>Well, above is all my analysis and test result. I did the optimization based
>on my own experience and understanding. If this is not qualified, I am very
>glad to hear from your statement, so that I would learn more from your
>experience.
>
>Thanks all for your comments again :-)
> 
>
>-- 
>Wei Yang
>Help you, Help me

-- 
Wei Yang
Help you, Help me

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-03 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-23 13:07 [PATCH 0/3] trivial code refine for sparsemem Wei Yang
2018-08-23 13:07 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm/sparse: add likely to mem_section[root] check in sparse_index_init() Wei Yang
2018-08-23 13:13   ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-23 22:57     ` Wei Yang
2018-08-24  7:31       ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24  0:11   ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-24 15:07     ` Wei Yang
2018-09-03 22:27       ` Wei Yang [this message]
2018-09-09  1:38         ` Wei Yang
2018-09-10 20:30           ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-11 15:00             ` Wei Yang
2018-08-23 13:07 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm/sparse: expand the CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_EXTREME range in __nr_to_section() Wei Yang
2018-08-23 13:21   ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-23 23:03     ` Wei Yang
2018-08-24  0:09     ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-24 15:24       ` Wei Yang
2018-08-23 13:07 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm/sparse: use __highest_present_section_nr as the boundary for pfn check Wei Yang
2018-08-23 13:25   ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-23 14:00     ` Oscar Salvador
2018-08-23 19:17       ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-23 20:52         ` Oscar Salvador
2018-08-24  0:15   ` Dave Hansen
2018-08-24 18:11     ` Wei Yang

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