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From: Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>
To: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Rafael Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] node: Add heterogenous memory performance
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 08:46:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181119154604.GC23062@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <91369e94-d389-7cb9-6274-f46c9ec779d3@arm.com>

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 09:05:07AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> On 11/15/2018 04:19 AM, Keith Busch wrote:
> > Heterogeneous memory systems provide memory nodes with latency
> > and bandwidth performance attributes that are different from other
> > nodes. Create an interface for the kernel to register these attributes
> 
> There are other properties like power consumption, reliability which can
> be associated with a particular PA range. Also the set of properties has
> to be extensible for the future.

Sure, I'm just starting with the attributes available from HMAT, 
If there are additional possible attributes that make sense to add, I
don't see why we can't continue appending them if this patch is okay.
 
> > under the node that provides the memory. If the system provides this
> > information, applications can query the node attributes when deciding
> > which node to request memory.
> 
> Right but each (memory initiator, memory target) should have these above
> mentioned properties enumerated to have an 'property as seen' from kind
> of semantics.
> 
> > 
> > When multiple memory initiators exist, accessing the same memory target
> > from each may not perform the same as the other. The highest performing
> > initiator to a given target is considered to be a local initiator for
> > that target. The kernel provides performance attributes only for the
> > local initiators.
> 
> As mentioned above the interface must enumerate a future extensible set
> of properties for each (memory initiator, memory target) pair available
> on the system.

That seems less friendly to use if forces the application to figure out
which CPU is the best for a given memory node rather than just provide
that answer directly.

> > The memory's compute node should be symlinked in sysfs as one of the
> > node's initiators.
> 
> Right. IIUC the first patch skips the linking process of for two nodes A
> and B if (A == B) preventing association to local memory initiator.

Right, CPUs and memory sharing a proximity domain are assumed to be
local to each other, so not going to set up those links to itself.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-19 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-14 22:49 [PATCH 1/7] node: Link memory nodes to their compute nodes Keith Busch
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 2/7] node: Add heterogenous memory performance Keith Busch
2018-11-19  3:35   ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-19 15:46     ` Keith Busch [this message]
2018-11-22 13:22       ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-27  7:00   ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 17:42     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-27 17:44     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 3/7] doc/vm: New documentation for " Keith Busch
2018-11-15 12:59   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-12-10 16:12     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-20 13:51   ` Mike Rapoport
2018-11-20 15:31     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 4/7] node: Add memory caching attributes Keith Busch
2018-11-15  0:40   ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-19  4:14   ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-19 23:06     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-22 13:29       ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-26 15:14         ` Keith Busch
2018-11-26 19:06   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-26 19:53     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-26 19:06   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 5/7] doc/vm: New documentation for memory cache Keith Busch
2018-11-15  0:41   ` Dave Hansen
2018-11-15 13:16   ` Jonathan Cameron
2018-11-20 13:53   ` Mike Rapoport
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 6/7] acpi: Create subtable parsing infrastructure Keith Busch
2018-11-19  9:58   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-11-19 18:36     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-14 22:49 ` [PATCH 7/7] acpi/hmat: Parse and report heterogeneous memory Keith Busch
2018-11-15 13:57 ` [PATCH 1/7] node: Link memory nodes to their compute nodes Matthew Wilcox
2018-11-15 14:59   ` Keith Busch
2018-11-15 17:50     ` Dan Williams
2018-11-19  3:04       ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-15 20:36     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-11-16 18:32       ` Keith Busch
2018-11-19  3:15         ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-19 15:49           ` Keith Busch
2018-12-04 15:43         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2018-12-04 16:54           ` Keith Busch
2018-11-16 22:55       ` Dan Williams
2018-11-19  2:52     ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-11-19  2:46 ` Anshuman Khandual

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