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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>,
	osalvador@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm, hotplug: move init_currently_empty_zone() under zone_span_lock protection
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 09:42:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181123084201.GA8625@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18088694-22c8-b09b-f500-4932b6199004@redhat.com>

On Thu 22-11-18 16:26:40, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 22.11.18 11:12, Wei Yang wrote:
> > During online_pages phase, pgdat->nr_zones will be updated in case this
> > zone is empty.
> > 
> > Currently the online_pages phase is protected by the global lock
> > mem_hotplug_begin(), which ensures there is no contention during the
> > update of nr_zones. But this global lock introduces scalability issues.
> > 
> > This patch is a preparation for removing the global lock during
> > online_pages phase. Also this patch changes the documentation of
> > node_size_lock to include the protectioin of nr_zones.
> 
> I looked into locking recently, and there is more to it.
> 
> Please read:
> 
> commit dee6da22efac451d361f5224a60be2796d847b51
> Author: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> Date:   Tue Oct 30 15:10:44 2018 -0700
> 
>     memory-hotplug.rst: add some details about locking internals
>     
>     Let's document the magic a bit, especially why device_hotplug_lock is
>     required when adding/removing memory and how it all play together with
>     requests to online/offline memory from user space.
> 
> Short summary: Onlining/offlining of memory requires the device_hotplug_lock
> as of now.

Well, I would tend to disagree here. You might be describing the current
state of art but the device_hotplug_lock doesn't make much sense for the
memory hotplug in principle. There is absolutely nothing in the core MM
that would require this lock. The current state just uses a BKL in some
sense and we really want to get rid of that longterm. This patch is a tiny
step in that direction and I suspect many more will need to come on the
way. We really want to end up with a clear scope of each lock being
taken. A project for a brave soul...

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-23  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-20  1:48 [PATCH] mm, hotplug: protect nr_zones with pgdat_resize_lock() Wei Yang
2018-11-20  7:31 ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-20  7:58   ` osalvador
2018-11-20  8:48     ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-21  2:52     ` Wei Yang
2018-11-21  7:15       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-22  1:52         ` Wei Yang
2018-11-22  8:39           ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-26  2:28         ` Wei Yang
2018-11-26  8:16           ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-26  9:06             ` Wei Yang
2018-11-26 10:03               ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-27  0:18                 ` Wei Yang
2018-11-27  3:12             ` Wei Yang
2018-11-27 13:16               ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-27 23:56                 ` Wei Yang
2018-11-21  8:24       ` osalvador
2018-11-21  2:44   ` Wei Yang
2018-11-21  7:14     ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-22 10:12 ` [PATCH v2] mm, hotplug: move init_currently_empty_zone() under zone_span_lock protection Wei Yang
2018-11-22 10:15   ` Wei Yang
2018-11-22 10:29     ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-22 14:27       ` Wei Yang
2018-11-22 10:37   ` osalvador
2018-11-22 14:28     ` Wei Yang
2018-11-22 15:26   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-22 21:28     ` Wei Yang
2018-11-22 21:53       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-22 23:53         ` Wei Yang
2018-11-23  8:42     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-11-23  8:46       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-26  1:44         ` Wei Yang
2018-11-26  9:24           ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-27  0:23             ` Wei Yang
2018-11-30  6:58   ` [PATCH v3] " Wei Yang
2018-11-30  9:30     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-12-01  0:27       ` Wei Yang
2018-12-03 10:09         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-12-03 20:37           ` Wei Yang
2018-12-03 20:50     ` [PATCH v4] " Wei Yang

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