From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk1-f198.google.com (mail-qk1-f198.google.com [209.85.222.198]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21828E0004 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2018 13:45:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qk1-f198.google.com with SMTP id s19so6624173qke.20 for ; Sat, 08 Dec 2018 10:45:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.redhat.com (mx1.redhat.com. [209.132.183.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c5si4191940qth.210.2018.12.08.10.45.31 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 08 Dec 2018 10:45:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 13:45:26 -0500 From: Jerome Glisse Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: introduce put_user_page*(), placeholder versions Message-ID: <20181208184525.GC2952@redhat.com> References: <20181205014441.GA3045@redhat.com> <59ca5c4b-fd5b-1fc6-f891-c7986d91908e@nvidia.com> <7b4733be-13d3-c790-ff1b-ac51b505e9a6@nvidia.com> <20181207191620.GD3293@redhat.com> <3c4d46c0-aced-f96f-1bf3-725d02f11b60@nvidia.com> <20181208163353.GA2952@redhat.com> <20181208164825.GA26154@infradead.org> <20181208174730.GB2952@redhat.com> <20181208182604.GA24564@infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20181208182604.GA24564@infradead.org> Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org List-ID: To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: Dan Williams , John Hubbard , Matthew Wilcox , John Hubbard , Andrew Morton , Linux MM , Jan Kara , tom@talpey.com, Al Viro , benve@cisco.com, Christopher Lameter , "Dalessandro, Dennis" , Doug Ledford , Jason Gunthorpe , Michal Hocko , Mike Marciniszyn , rcampbell@nvidia.com, Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-fsdevel On Sat, Dec 08, 2018 at 10:26:04AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Sat, Dec 08, 2018 at 12:47:30PM -0500, Jerome Glisse wrote: > > Most of the user of GUP are well behave (everything under driver/gpu and > > so is mellanox driver and many other) ie they abide by mmu notifier > > invalidation call backs. They are a handfull of device driver that thought > > they could just do GUP and ignore the mmu notifier part and those are the > > one being problematic. So to me it feels like bystander are be shot for no > > good reasons. > > get_user_pages is used by every single direct I/O, and while the race > windows in that case are small they very much exists. Yes and my proposal allow to fix that in even a better way than the pin count would ie allowing to provide a callback for write back to wait on direct I/O as you said for direct I/O it is a small window so it would be fine to have write back wait on it. Cheers, J�r�me