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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Daniel Jordan <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>,
	dan.carpenter@oracle.com, andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, sfr@canb.auug.org.au,
	osandov@fb.com, tj@kernel.org, ak@linux.intel.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org,
	paulmck@linux.ibm.com, stern@rowland.harvard.edu,
	peterz@infradead.org, will.deacon@arm.com
Subject: Re: About swapoff race patch  (was Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: bounds check swap_info accesses to avoid NULL derefs)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 14:26:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190204222642.GF21860@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1902041257390.4682@eggly.anvils>

On Mon, Feb 04, 2019 at 01:37:00PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2019, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 10:48:29 +0800 "Huang\, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:
> > > Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> writes:
> > > > mm-swap-fix-race-between-swapoff-and-some-swap-operations.patch is very
> > > > stuck so can you please redo this against mainline?
> > 
> > I have no evidence that it has been reviewed, for a start.  I've asked
> > Hugh to look at it.
> 
> I tried at the weekend.  Usual story: I don't like it at all, the
> ever-increasing complexity there, but certainly understand the need
> for that fix, and have not managed to think up anything better -
> and now I need to switch away, sorry.
> 
> The multiple dynamically allocated and freed swapper address spaces
> have indeed broken what used to make it safe.  If those imaginary
> address spaces did not have to be virtually contiguous, I'd say
> cache them and reuse them, instead of freeing.  But I don't see
> how to do that as it stands.
> 
> find_get_page(swapper_address_space(entry), swp_offset(entry)) has
> become an unsafe construct, where it used to be safe against corrupted
> page tables.  Maybe we don't care so much about crashing on corrupted
> page tables nowadays (I haven't heard recent complaints), and I think
> Huang is correct that lookup_swap_cache() and __read_swap_cache_async()
> happen to be the only instances that need to be guarded against swapoff
> (the others are working with page table locked).
> 
> The array of arrays of swapper spaces is all just to get a separate
> lock for separate extents of the swapfile: I wonder whether Matthew has
> anything in mind for that in XArray (I think Peter once got it working
> in radix-tree, but the overhead not so good).

Hi Hugh, thanks for putting me on the cc.

I've certainly noticed what's been going on with the swapper code, but
I've generally had a lack of tuits (round or otherwise) to really dig in
and figure out what's going on.  I've had some ideas about embedding a
spinlock in each leaf node (giving one lock per 64 slots), but I know I've
got about 800 things that I've actually promised to do ahead of looking
at doing that.

I have a suspicion that the swapper code could probably be replaced with
an allocating XArray (like the IDR) and it doesn't really need to be a
full on address_space, but I'm probably wrong because I haven't studied
the swap code in depth.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-04 22:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-11  9:59 [PATCH] mm, swap: Potential NULL dereference in get_swap_page_of_type() Dan Carpenter
2019-01-11 17:41 ` Daniel Jordan
2019-01-11 23:20   ` Andrea Parri
2019-01-14 22:25     ` Daniel Jordan
2019-01-15  0:23       ` [PATCH] mm, swap: bounds check swap_info accesses to avoid NULL derefs Daniel Jordan
2019-01-15  1:17         ` Andrea Parri
2019-01-30  6:26         ` Andrew Morton
2019-01-31  1:52           ` Daniel Jordan
2019-01-31  2:44             ` [PATCH v2] mm, swap: bounds check swap_info array " Daniel Jordan
2019-01-31  2:48           ` About swapoff race patch (was Re: [PATCH] mm, swap: bounds check swap_info accesses to avoid NULL derefs) Huang, Ying
2019-01-31 20:46             ` Andrew Morton
2019-02-02  7:14               ` Huang, Ying
2019-02-04 21:37               ` Hugh Dickins
2019-02-04 22:26                 ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2019-02-06  0:14                 ` Huang, Ying
2019-02-06  0:36                   ` Hugh Dickins
2019-02-06  0:58                     ` Huang, Ying
2019-02-08  0:28                 ` Andrea Parri
2019-02-11  1:02                   ` Huang, Ying
2019-01-30  7:28         ` [PATCH] mm, swap: bounds check swap_info accesses to avoid NULL derefs Dan Carpenter
2019-01-31  1:55           ` Daniel Jordan
2019-01-30  9:13         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-31  2:00           ` Daniel Jordan
2019-01-15  0:28       ` [PATCH] mm, swap: Potential NULL dereference in get_swap_page_of_type() Andrea Parri
2019-01-14  2:12   ` Huang, Ying
2019-01-14  2:12     ` Huang, Ying
2019-01-14  8:43   ` Dan Carpenter
2019-01-14 23:40     ` Daniel Jordan

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