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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] Discuss least bad options for resolving longterm-GUP usage by RDMA
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 15:12:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190211221247.GI24692@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb507b56-7f8f-cf2c-285c-bae3b2d72c4f@nvidia.com>

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 01:22:11PM -0800, John Hubbard wrote:

> The only way that breaks is if longterm pins imply an irreversible action, such
> as blocking and waiting in a way that you can't back out of or get interrupted
> out of. And the design doesn't seem to be going in that direction, right?

RDMA, vfio, etc will always have 'long term' pins that are
irreversible on demand. It is part of the HW capability.

I think the flag is badly named, it is really more of a
GUP_LOCK_PHYSICAL_ADDRESSES flag.

ie indicate to the FS that is should not attempt to remap physical
memory addresses backing this VMA. If the FS can't do that it must
fail.

Short term GUP doesn't need that kind of lock.

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-11 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-05 17:50 [LSF/MM TOPIC] Discuss least bad options for resolving longterm-GUP usage by RDMA Ira Weiny
2019-02-05 18:01 ` Ira Weiny
2019-02-06 21:31   ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-06  9:50 ` Jan Kara
2019-02-06 17:31   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-06 17:52     ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-06 18:32       ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 18:35         ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-06 18:44           ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 18:52           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-06 19:45             ` Dan Williams
2019-02-06 20:14               ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 21:04                 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-06 21:12                   ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 19:16         ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-06 19:40           ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-06 20:16             ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 20:20               ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-06 20:28                 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 20:41                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-06 20:47                     ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 20:49                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-06 20:50                         ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 20:31                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-06 20:39                 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-06 20:54                 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-07 16:48                   ` Jan Kara
2019-02-06 20:24             ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-06 21:03           ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-06 22:08             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-06 22:24               ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 22:44                 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-06 23:21                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-06 23:30                     ` Dan Williams
2019-02-06 23:41                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-07  0:22                         ` Dan Williams
2019-02-07  5:33                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-07  1:57                   ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-07  2:48                     ` Dan Williams
2019-02-07  2:42                   ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-07  3:13                     ` Dan Williams
2019-02-07 17:23                       ` Ira Weiny
2019-02-07 16:25                   ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-07 16:55                     ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-07 17:35                       ` Ira Weiny
2019-02-07 18:17                         ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-08  4:43                       ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-08 11:10                         ` Jan Kara
2019-02-08 20:50                           ` Dan Williams
2019-02-11 10:24                             ` Jan Kara
2019-02-11 17:22                               ` Dan Williams
2019-02-11 18:06                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-11 18:15                                   ` Dan Williams
2019-02-11 18:19                                   ` Ira Weiny
2019-02-11 18:26                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-11 18:40                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-11 19:58                                         ` Dan Williams
2019-02-11 20:49                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-11 21:02                                             ` Dan Williams
2019-02-11 21:09                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-12 16:34                                                 ` Jan Kara
2019-02-12 16:55                                                   ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-13 15:06                                                     ` Jan Kara
2019-02-12 16:36                                               ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-12 16:44                                                 ` Jan Kara
2019-02-11 21:08                                     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-11 21:22                                     ` John Hubbard
2019-02-11 22:12                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2019-02-11 22:33                                         ` John Hubbard
2019-02-12 16:39                                           ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-13  2:58                                             ` John Hubbard
2019-02-12 16:28                                   ` Jan Kara
2019-02-14 20:26                                   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-14 20:50                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-14 21:39                                       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-15  1:19                                         ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-15 15:42                                           ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-15 18:08                                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-15 18:31                                               ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-15 22:00                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-15 23:38                                                   ` Ira Weiny
2019-02-16 22:42                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-17  2:54                                                     ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-12 16:07                                 ` Jan Kara
2019-02-12 21:53                                   ` Dan Williams
2019-02-08 21:20                           ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-08 15:33                         ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-07 17:24                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-07 17:26                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-07  3:52                 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-07  5:23                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-07  6:00                     ` Dan Williams
2019-02-07 17:17                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-07 23:54                         ` Dan Williams
2019-02-08  1:44                           ` Ira Weiny
2019-02-08  5:19                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-08  7:20                             ` Dan Williams
2019-02-08 15:42                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-07 15:04                     ` Chuck Lever
2019-02-07 15:28                       ` Tom Talpey
2019-02-07 15:37                         ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-07 15:41                           ` Tom Talpey
2019-02-07 15:56                             ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-07 16:57                         ` Ira Weiny
2019-02-07 21:31                           ` Tom Talpey
2019-02-07 16:54                     ` Ira Weiny

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