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[198.145.29.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b1si8312376plr.379.2019.02.13.01.18.05 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Feb 2019 01:18:06 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of srs0=8kuc=qu=linuxfoundation.org=gregkh@kernel.org designates 198.145.29.99 as permitted sender) client-ip=198.145.29.99; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=default header.b=aJBR3p8U; spf=pass (google.com: domain of srs0=8kuc=qu=linuxfoundation.org=gregkh@kernel.org designates 198.145.29.99 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="SRS0=8KUc=QU=linuxfoundation.org=gregkh@kernel.org" Received: from localhost (5356596B.cm-6-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl [83.86.89.107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 286E8222BE; Wed, 13 Feb 2019 09:18:04 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1550049485; bh=OBwtMif6U+gAaRqAxV3AgL7zafK6ORpn+3ToEs1jewg=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=aJBR3p8UeaFYq4Y9hKmUYhWwNBpI/rhmNsqsWY5DyLtM70GEH2zsy934/UJrWt0UQ YlRgwty3vJMnXJEYcGPMOCe90hxSs6XnD2eriPsByXASy9gNMWSFhdXkTRVXQc8CVi P6OKqoUYaAOb5ywdBMwvzWG5uev3p2PZSm37lpAE= Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 10:18:03 +0100 From: Greg KH To: Amir Goldstein Cc: Steve French , Sasha Levin , lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel , linux-mm , LKML , "Luis R. Rodriguez" Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] FS, MM, and stable trees Message-ID: <20190213091803.GA2308@kroah.com> References: <20190212170012.GF69686@sasha-vm> <20190213073707.GA2875@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.3 (2019-02-01) X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 11:01:25AM +0200, Amir Goldstein wrote: > I think the main difference between these review announcements > and true CI is what kind of guaranty you get for a release candidate > from NOT getting a test failure response, which is one of the main > reasons that where holding back xfs stable fixes for so long. That's not true, I know to wait for some responses before doing a release of these kernels. > Best effort testing in timely manner is good, but a good way to > improve confidence in stable kernel releases is a publicly > available list of tests that the release went through. We have that, you aren't noticing them... > Do you have any such list of tests that you *know* are being run, > that you (or Sasha) run yourself or that you actively wait on an > ACK from a group before a release? Yes, look at the responses to those messages from Guenter, Shuah, Jon, kernel.ci, Red Hat testing, the Linaro testing teams, and a few other testers that come and go over time. Those list out all of the tests that are being run, and the results of those tests. I also get a number of private responses from different build systems from companies that don't want to post in public, which is fine, I understand the issues involved with that. I would argue that the stable releases are better tested than Linus's releases for that reason alone :) thanks, greg k-h