From: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] RFC: READ/WRITE_ONCE vma/mm cleanups
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 10:49:29 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190301184929.76v4w4plreobjim3@linux-r8p5> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190301165452.GP14294@redhat.com>
On Fri, 01 Mar 2019, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>
>On Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 02:04:38PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 3/1/19 10:37 AM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
>> > On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:55:48PM -0500, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> This was a well known issue for more than a decade, but until a few
>> >> months ago we relied on the compiler to stick to atomic accesses and
>> >> updates while walking and updating pagetables.
>> >>
>> >> However now the 64bit native_set_pte finally uses WRITE_ONCE and
>> >> gup_pmd_range uses READ_ONCE as well.
>> >>
>> >> This convert more racy VM places to avoid depending on the expected
>> >> compiler behavior to achieve kernel runtime correctness.
>> >>
>> >> It mostly guarantees gcc to do atomic updates at 64bit granularity
>> >> (practically not needed) and it also prevents gcc to emit code that
>> >> risks getting confused if the memory unexpectedly changes under it
>> >> (unlikely to ever be needed).
>> >>
>> >> The list of vm_start/end/pgoff to update isn't complete, I covered the
>> >> most obvious places, but before wasting too much time at doing a full
>> >> audit I thought it was safer to post it and get some comment. More
>> >> updates can be posted incrementally anyway.
>> >
>> > The intention is described well to my eyes.
>> >
>> > Do I understand correctly, that it's attempt to get away with modifying
>> > vma's fields under down_read(mmap_sem)?
>
>The issue is that we already get away with it, but we do it without
>READ/WRITE_ONCE. The patch should changes nothing, it should only
>reduce the dependency on the compiler to do what we expect.
>
>> If that's the intention, then IMHO it's not that well described. It
>> talks about "racy VM places" but e.g. the __mm_populate() changes are
>> for code protected by down_read(). So what's going on here?
>
>expand_stack can move anonymous vma vm_end up or vm_start/pgoff down,
>while we hold the mmap_sem for writing. See the location of the three
>WRITE_ONCE in the patch.
You mean for reading, right? Yes, with expand_stack being held for read
such members were never really serialized by the mmap_sem and thus we
should not be computing stale values.
Acked-by: Davidlohr Bueso <dbueso@suse.de>
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-03-01 18:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-03-01 3:55 [PATCH 0/2] RFC: READ/WRITE_ONCE vma/mm cleanups Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-01 3:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] coredump: use READ_ONCE to read mm->flags Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-01 3:55 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: use READ/WRITE_ONCE to access anonymous vmas vm_start/vm_end/vm_pgoff Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-01 9:37 ` [PATCH 0/2] RFC: READ/WRITE_ONCE vma/mm cleanups Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-03-01 13:04 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-01 16:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-01 18:49 ` Davidlohr Bueso [this message]
2019-03-04 10:12 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-03-05 13:00 ` Michal Hocko
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