From: Andrea Righi <andrea.righi@canonical.com>
To: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] blkcg: sync() isolation
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 18:32:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190308173215.GA10148@xps-13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190308172219.clcu6ehjav6y2hxi@MacBook-Pro-91.local>
On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 12:22:20PM -0500, Josef Bacik wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 07:08:31PM +0100, Andrea Righi wrote:
> > = Problem =
> >
> > When sync() is executed from a high-priority cgroup, the process is forced to
> > wait the completion of the entire outstanding writeback I/O, even the I/O that
> > was originally generated by low-priority cgroups potentially.
> >
> > This may cause massive latencies to random processes (even those running in the
> > root cgroup) that shouldn't be I/O-throttled at all, similarly to a classic
> > priority inversion problem.
> >
> > This topic has been previously discussed here:
> > https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10804489/
> >
>
> Sorry to move the goal posts on you again Andrea, but Tejun and I talked about
> this some more offline.
>
> We don't want cgroup to become the arbiter of correctness/behavior here. We
> just want it to be isolating things.
>
> For you that means you can drop the per-cgroup flag stuff, and only do the
> priority boosting for multiple sync(2) waiters. That is a real priority
> inversion that needs to be fixed. io.latency and io.max are capable of noticing
> that a low priority group is going above their configured limits and putting
> pressure elsewhere accordingly.
Alright, so IIUC that means we just need patch 1/3 for now (with the
per-bdi lock instead of the global lock). If that's the case I'll focus
at that patch then.
>
> Tejun said he'd rather see the sync(2) isolation be done at the namespace level.
> That way if you have fs namespacing you are already isolated to your namespace.
> If you feel like tackling that then hooray, but that's a separate dragon to slay
> so don't feel like you have to right now.
Makes sense. I can take a look and see what I can do after posting the
new patch with the priority inversion fix only.
>
> This way we keep cgroup doing its job, controlling resources. Then we allow
> namespacing to do its thing, isolating resources. Thanks,
>
> Josef
Looks like a good plan to me. Thanks for the update.
-Andrea
prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-03-08 17:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-03-07 18:08 [PATCH v2 0/3] blkcg: sync() isolation Andrea Righi
2019-03-07 18:08 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] blkcg: prevent priority inversion problem during sync() Andrea Righi
2019-03-07 22:10 ` Josef Bacik
2019-03-08 7:38 ` Andrea Righi
2019-03-07 18:08 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] blkcg: introduce io.sync_isolation Andrea Righi
2019-03-07 22:11 ` Josef Bacik
2019-03-07 18:08 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] blkcg: implement sync() isolation Andrea Righi
2019-03-07 22:07 ` Josef Bacik
2019-03-08 7:39 ` Andrea Righi
2019-03-08 17:22 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] blkcg: " Josef Bacik
2019-03-08 17:32 ` Andrea Righi [this message]
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