From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
Cc: "Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
" Rodolfo García Peñas (kix) " <kix@kix.es>,
"Oliver Winker" <oliverml1@oli1170.net>,
"Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>,
bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
"Maxim Patlasov" <mpatlasov@parallels.com>,
"Fengguang Wu" <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
killian.de.volder@megasoft.be, atillakaraca72@hotmail.com,
jrf@mailbox.org, matheusfillipeag@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Bug 75101] New: [bisected] s2disk / hibernate blocks on "Saving 506031 image data pages () ..."
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 16:25:00 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190402162500.def729ec05e6e267bff8a5da@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <539F1B66.2020006@intel.com>
I cc'ed a bunch of people from bugzilla.
Folks, please please please remember to reply via emailed
reply-to-all. Don't use the bugzilla interface!
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:29:26 +0200 "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com> wrote:
> On 6/13/2014 6:55 AM, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 01:50:47AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >> On 6/13/2014 12:02 AM, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> >>> On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 01:45:01AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >>>> On 5/6/2014 1:33 AM, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Oliver,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 11:00:13PM +0200, Oliver Winker wrote:
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1) Attached a full function-trace log + other SysRq outputs, see [1]
> >>>>>> attached.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I saw bdi_...() calls in the s2disk paths, but didn't check in detail
> >>>>>> Probably more efficient when one of you guys looks directly.
> >>>>> Thanks, this looks interesting. balance_dirty_pages() wakes up the
> >>>>> bdi_wq workqueue as it should:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550413us : global_dirty_limits <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited
> >>>>> [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : global_dirtyable_memory <-global_dirty_limits
> >>>>> [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : writeback_in_progress <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited
> >>>>> [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : bdi_start_background_writeback <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited
> >>>>> [ 249.148009] s2disk-3327 2.... 48550414us : mod_delayed_work_on <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited
> >>>>> but the worker wakeup doesn't actually do anything:
> >>>>> [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : finish_task_switch <-__schedule
> >>>>> [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550431us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-worker_thread
> >>>>> [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550431us : need_to_create_worker <-worker_thread
> >>>>> [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : worker_enter_idle <-worker_thread
> >>>>> [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2d... 48550432us : too_many_workers <-worker_enter_idle
> >>>>> [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : schedule <-worker_thread
> >>>>> [ 249.148009] kworker/-3466 2.... 48550432us : __schedule <-worker_thread
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My suspicion is that this fails because the bdi_wq is frozen at this
> >>>>> point and so the flush work never runs until resume, whereas before my
> >>>>> patch the effective dirty limit was high enough so that image could be
> >>>>> written in one go without being throttled; followed by an fsync() that
> >>>>> then writes the pages in the context of the unfrozen s2disk.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does this make sense? Rafael? Tejun?
> >>>> Well, it does seem to make sense to me.
> >>> From what I see, this is a deadlock in the userspace suspend model and
> >>> just happened to work by chance in the past.
> >> Well, it had been working for quite a while, so it was a rather large
> >> opportunity
> >> window it seems. :-)
> > No doubt about that, and I feel bad that it broke. But it's still a
> > deadlock that can't reasonably be accommodated from dirty throttling.
> >
> > It can't just put the flushers to sleep and then issue a large amount
> > of buffered IO, hoping it doesn't hit the dirty limits. Don't shoot
> > the messenger, this bug needs to be addressed, not get papered over.
> >
> >>> Can we patch suspend-utils as follows?
> >> Perhaps we can. Let's ask the new maintainer.
> >>
> >> Rodolfo, do you think you can apply the patch below to suspend-utils?
> >>
> >>> Alternatively, suspend-utils
> >>> could clear the dirty limits before it starts writing and restore them
> >>> post-resume.
> >> That (and the patch too) doesn't seem to address the problem with existing
> >> suspend-utils
> >> binaries, however.
> > It's userspace that freezes the system before issuing buffered IO, so
> > my conclusion was that the bug is in there. This is arguable. I also
> > wouldn't be opposed to a patch that sets the dirty limits to infinity
> > from the ioctl that freezes the system or creates the image.
>
> OK, that sounds like a workable plan.
>
> How do I set those limits to infinity?
Five years have passed and people are still hitting this.
Killian described the workaround in comment 14 at
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75101.
People can use this workaround manually by hand or in scripts. But we
really should find a proper solution. Maybe special-case the freezing
of the flusher threads until all the writeout has completed. Or
something else.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-04-02 23:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-05 23:33 [Bug 75101] New: [bisected] s2disk / hibernate blocks on "Saving 506031 image data pages () ..." Johannes Weiner
2014-05-05 23:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-12 22:02 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-12 23:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-13 4:55 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-16 16:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-04-02 23:25 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2019-04-03 3:54 ` Matheus Fillipe
2019-04-03 8:23 ` Rainer Fiebig
2019-04-03 8:34 ` Rainer Fiebig
2019-04-03 9:34 ` Jan Kara
2019-04-03 10:04 ` Rainer Fiebig
2019-04-03 16:59 ` Matheus Fillipe
2019-04-03 17:55 ` Rainer Fiebig
2019-04-03 19:08 ` Matheus Fillipe
[not found] ` <CAFWuBvfxS0S6me_pneXmNzKwObSRUOg08_7=YToAoBg53UtPKg@mail.gmail.com>
2019-04-04 10:48 ` Rainer Fiebig
2019-04-04 16:04 ` matheus
2019-04-03 21:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] <bug-75101-27@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
2014-04-29 22:24 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-05 15:35 ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-05 16:10 ` Jan Kara
2014-05-05 21:00 ` Oliver Winker
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