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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
Cc: "Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	" Rodolfo García Peñas (kix) " <kix@kix.es>,
	"Oliver Winker" <oliverml1@oli1170.net>,
	"Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>,
	bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Maxim Patlasov" <mpatlasov@parallels.com>,
	"Fengguang Wu" <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	killian.de.volder@megasoft.be, atillakaraca72@hotmail.com,
	jrf@mailbox.org, matheusfillipeag@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Bug 75101] New: [bisected] s2disk / hibernate blocks on "Saving 506031 image data pages () ..."
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 16:25:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190402162500.def729ec05e6e267bff8a5da@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <539F1B66.2020006@intel.com>


I cc'ed a bunch of people from bugzilla.

Folks, please please please remember to reply via emailed
reply-to-all.  Don't use the bugzilla interface!

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:29:26 +0200 "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com> wrote:

> On 6/13/2014 6:55 AM, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 01:50:47AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >> On 6/13/2014 12:02 AM, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> >>> On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 01:45:01AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >>>> On 5/6/2014 1:33 AM, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Oliver,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 11:00:13PM +0200, Oliver Winker wrote:
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1) Attached a full function-trace log + other SysRq outputs, see [1]
> >>>>>> attached.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I saw bdi_...() calls in the s2disk paths, but didn't check in detail
> >>>>>> Probably more efficient when one of you guys looks directly.
> >>>>> Thanks, this looks interesting.  balance_dirty_pages() wakes up the
> >>>>> bdi_wq workqueue as it should:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [  249.148009]   s2disk-3327    2.... 48550413us : global_dirty_limits <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited
> >>>>> [  249.148009]   s2disk-3327    2.... 48550414us : global_dirtyable_memory <-global_dirty_limits
> >>>>> [  249.148009]   s2disk-3327    2.... 48550414us : writeback_in_progress <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited
> >>>>> [  249.148009]   s2disk-3327    2.... 48550414us : bdi_start_background_writeback <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited
> >>>>> [  249.148009]   s2disk-3327    2.... 48550414us : mod_delayed_work_on <-balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited
> >>>>> but the worker wakeup doesn't actually do anything:
> >>>>> [  249.148009] kworker/-3466    2d... 48550431us : finish_task_switch <-__schedule
> >>>>> [  249.148009] kworker/-3466    2.... 48550431us : _raw_spin_lock_irq <-worker_thread
> >>>>> [  249.148009] kworker/-3466    2d... 48550431us : need_to_create_worker <-worker_thread
> >>>>> [  249.148009] kworker/-3466    2d... 48550432us : worker_enter_idle <-worker_thread
> >>>>> [  249.148009] kworker/-3466    2d... 48550432us : too_many_workers <-worker_enter_idle
> >>>>> [  249.148009] kworker/-3466    2.... 48550432us : schedule <-worker_thread
> >>>>> [  249.148009] kworker/-3466    2.... 48550432us : __schedule <-worker_thread
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My suspicion is that this fails because the bdi_wq is frozen at this
> >>>>> point and so the flush work never runs until resume, whereas before my
> >>>>> patch the effective dirty limit was high enough so that image could be
> >>>>> written in one go without being throttled; followed by an fsync() that
> >>>>> then writes the pages in the context of the unfrozen s2disk.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does this make sense?  Rafael?  Tejun?
> >>>> Well, it does seem to make sense to me.
> >>>  From what I see, this is a deadlock in the userspace suspend model and
> >>> just happened to work by chance in the past.
> >> Well, it had been working for quite a while, so it was a rather large
> >> opportunity
> >> window it seems. :-)
> > No doubt about that, and I feel bad that it broke.  But it's still a
> > deadlock that can't reasonably be accommodated from dirty throttling.
> >
> > It can't just put the flushers to sleep and then issue a large amount
> > of buffered IO, hoping it doesn't hit the dirty limits.  Don't shoot
> > the messenger, this bug needs to be addressed, not get papered over.
> >
> >>> Can we patch suspend-utils as follows?
> >> Perhaps we can.  Let's ask the new maintainer.
> >>
> >> Rodolfo, do you think you can apply the patch below to suspend-utils?
> >>
> >>> Alternatively, suspend-utils
> >>> could clear the dirty limits before it starts writing and restore them
> >>> post-resume.
> >> That (and the patch too) doesn't seem to address the problem with existing
> >> suspend-utils
> >> binaries, however.
> > It's userspace that freezes the system before issuing buffered IO, so
> > my conclusion was that the bug is in there.  This is arguable.  I also
> > wouldn't be opposed to a patch that sets the dirty limits to infinity
> > from the ioctl that freezes the system or creates the image.
> 
> OK, that sounds like a workable plan.
> 
> How do I set those limits to infinity?

Five years have passed and people are still hitting this.

Killian described the workaround in comment 14 at
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75101.

People can use this workaround manually by hand or in scripts.  But we
really should find a proper solution.  Maybe special-case the freezing
of the flusher threads until all the writeout has completed.  Or
something else.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-02 23:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-05 23:33 [Bug 75101] New: [bisected] s2disk / hibernate blocks on "Saving 506031 image data pages () ..." Johannes Weiner
2014-05-05 23:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-12 22:02   ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-12 23:50     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-13  4:55       ` Johannes Weiner
2014-06-16 16:29         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-04-02 23:25           ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2019-04-03  3:54             ` Matheus Fillipe
2019-04-03  8:23               ` Rainer Fiebig
2019-04-03  8:34             ` Rainer Fiebig
2019-04-03  9:34             ` Jan Kara
2019-04-03 10:04               ` Rainer Fiebig
2019-04-03 16:59                 ` Matheus Fillipe
2019-04-03 17:55                   ` Rainer Fiebig
2019-04-03 19:08                     ` Matheus Fillipe
     [not found]                     ` <CAFWuBvfxS0S6me_pneXmNzKwObSRUOg08_7=YToAoBg53UtPKg@mail.gmail.com>
2019-04-04 10:48                       ` Rainer Fiebig
2019-04-04 16:04                         ` matheus
2019-04-03 21:43               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] <bug-75101-27@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
2014-04-29 22:24 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-05 15:35   ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-05 16:10     ` Jan Kara
2014-05-05 21:00       ` Oliver Winker

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