From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@nvidia.com>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/11] mm/hmm: Various revisions from a locking/code review
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 14:52:03 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190524175203.GG16845@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190524170148.GB3346@redhat.com>
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 01:01:49PM -0400, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 01:59:31PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 12:49:02PM -0400, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:36:49AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 12:34:25PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > > From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > This patch series arised out of discussions with Jerome when looking at the
> > > > > ODP changes, particularly informed by use after free races we have already
> > > > > found and fixed in the ODP code (thanks to syzkaller) working with mmu
> > > > > notifiers, and the discussion with Ralph on how to resolve the lifetime model.
> > > >
> > > > So the last big difference with ODP's flow is how 'range->valid'
> > > > works.
> > > >
> > > > In ODP this was done using the rwsem umem->umem_rwsem which is
> > > > obtained for read in invalidate_start and released in invalidate_end.
> > > >
> > > > Then any other threads that wish to only work on a umem which is not
> > > > undergoing invalidation will obtain the write side of the lock, and
> > > > within that lock's critical section the virtual address range is known
> > > > to not be invalidating.
> > > >
> > > > I cannot understand how hmm gets to the same approach. It has
> > > > range->valid, but it is not locked by anything that I can see, so when
> > > > we test it in places like hmm_range_fault it seems useless..
> > > >
> > > > Jerome, how does this work?
> > > >
> > > > I have a feeling we should copy the approach from ODP and use an
> > > > actual lock here.
> > >
> > > range->valid is use as bail early if invalidation is happening in
> > > hmm_range_fault() to avoid doing useless work. The synchronization
> > > is explained in the documentation:
> >
> > That just says the hmm APIs handle locking. I asked how the apis
> > implement that locking internally.
> >
> > Are you trying to say that if I do this, hmm will still work completely
> > correctly?
>
> Yes it will keep working correctly. You would just be doing potentialy
> useless work.
I don't see how it works correctly.
Apply the comment out patch I showed and this trivially happens:
CPU0 CPU1
hmm_invalidate_start()
ops->sync_cpu_device_pagetables()
device_lock()
// Wipe out page tables in device, enable faulting
device_unlock()
DEVICE PAGE FAULT
device_lock()
hmm_range_register()
hmm_range_dma_map()
device_unlock()
hmm_invalidate_end()
The mmu notifier spec says:
* Invalidation of multiple concurrent ranges may be
* optionally permitted by the driver. Either way the
* establishment of sptes is forbidden in the range passed to
* invalidate_range_begin/end for the whole duration of the
* invalidate_range_begin/end critical section.
And I understand "establishment of sptes is forbidden" means
"hmm_range_dmap_map() must fail with EAGAIN".
This is why ODP uses an actual lock held across the critical region
which completely prohibits reading the CPU pages tables, or
establishing new mappings.
So, I still think we need a true lock, not a 'maybe valid' flag.
Jason
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-23 15:34 [RFC PATCH 00/11] mm/hmm: Various revisions from a locking/code review Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-23 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] mm/hmm: Fix use after free with struct hmm in the mmu notifiers Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-06 23:54 ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-07 14:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-23 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] mm/hmm: Use hmm_mirror not mm as an argument for hmm_register_range Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-23 18:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-05-23 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] mm/hmm: Hold a mmgrab from hmm to mm Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-23 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] mm/hmm: Simplify hmm_get_or_create and make it reliable Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-23 23:38 ` Ralph Campbell
2019-05-24 1:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-24 17:06 ` Ralph Campbell
2019-05-23 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] mm/hmm: Improve locking around hmm->dead Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-24 13:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-23 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] mm/hmm: Remove duplicate condition test before wait_event_timeout Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-23 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] mm/hmm: Delete hmm_mirror_mm_is_alive() Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-23 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] mm/hmm: Use lockdep instead of comments Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 19:33 ` Souptick Joarder
2019-06-07 19:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 21:02 ` Souptick Joarder
2019-06-08 1:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-23 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] mm/hmm: Remove racy protection against double-unregistration Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 19:38 ` Souptick Joarder
2019-06-07 19:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 19:55 ` Souptick Joarder
2019-05-23 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] mm/hmm: Poison hmm_range during unregister Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 20:13 ` Souptick Joarder
2019-06-07 20:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-23 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] mm/hmm: Do not use list*_rcu() for hmm->ranges Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 20:22 ` Souptick Joarder
2019-05-23 19:04 ` [RFC PATCH 00/11] mm/hmm: Various revisions from a locking/code review John Hubbard
2019-05-23 19:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-23 20:59 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-05-24 13:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-24 14:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-24 16:49 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-05-24 16:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-24 17:01 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-05-24 17:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2019-05-24 18:03 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-05-24 18:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-24 18:46 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-05-24 22:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-27 19:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-24 17:47 ` Ralph Campbell
2019-05-24 17:51 ` Jerome Glisse
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