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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Felix.Kuehling@amd.com, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 hmm 05/11] mm/hmm: Remove duplicate condition test before wait_event_timeout
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2019 22:47:20 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190608014720.GC7844@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ba55e382-c982-8e50-4ee7-7f05c9f7fafa@nvidia.com>

On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 03:13:00PM -0700, Ralph Campbell wrote:
> > Do you see a reason why the find_vma() ever needs to be before the
> > 'again' in my above example? range.vma does not need to be set for
> > range_register.
> 
> Yes, for the GPU case, there can be many faults in an event queue
> and the goal is to try to handle more than one page at a time.
> The vma is needed to limit the amount of coalescing and checking
> for pages that could be speculatively migrated or mapped.

I'd need to see an algorithm sketch to see what you are thinking..

But, I guess a driver would have figure out a list of what virtual
pages it wants to fault under the mmap sem (maybe use find_vam, etc),
then drop mmap_sem, and start processing those pages for mirroring
under the hmm side.

ie they are two seperate unrelated tasks.

I looked at the hmm.rst again, and that reference algorithm is already
showing that that upon retry the mmap_sem is released:

      take_lock(driver->update);
      if (!range.valid) {
          release_lock(driver->update);
          up_read(&mm->mmap_sem);
          goto again;

So a driver cannot assume that any VMA related work done under the
mmap before the hmm 'critical section' can carry into the hmm critical
section as the lock can be released upon retry and invalidate all that
data..

Forcing the hmm_range_start_and_lock() to acquire the mmap_sem is a
rough way to force the driver author to realize there are two locking
domains and lock protected information cannot cross between.

> OK, I understand.
> If you come up with a set of changes, I can try testing them.

Thanks, I make a sketch of the patch, I have to get back to it after
this series is done.

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-08  1:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-06 18:44 [PATCH v2 hmm 00/11] Various revisions from a locking/code review Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-06 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 hmm 01/11] mm/hmm: fix use after free with struct hmm in the mmu notifiers Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07  2:29   ` John Hubbard
2019-06-07 12:34     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 13:42       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-08  1:13       ` John Hubbard
2019-06-08  1:37       ` John Hubbard
2019-06-07 18:12   ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-08  8:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-08 11:33     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-06 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 hmm 02/11] mm/hmm: Use hmm_mirror not mm as an argument for hmm_range_register Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07  2:36   ` John Hubbard
2019-06-07 18:24   ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-07 22:39     ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-10 13:09       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 22:33   ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-08  8:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 19:44     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-12  7:12       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-12 11:41         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-12 12:11           ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-06 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 hmm 03/11] mm/hmm: Hold a mmgrab from hmm to mm Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07  2:44   ` John Hubbard
2019-06-07 12:36     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 18:41   ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-07 18:51     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 22:38   ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-06 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 hmm 04/11] mm/hmm: Simplify hmm_get_or_create and make it reliable Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07  2:54   ` John Hubbard
2019-06-07 18:52   ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-07 22:44   ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-06 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 hmm 05/11] mm/hmm: Remove duplicate condition test before wait_event_timeout Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07  3:06   ` John Hubbard
2019-06-07 12:47     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 13:31     ` [PATCH v3 " Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 22:55       ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-08  1:32       ` John Hubbard
2019-06-07 19:01   ` [PATCH v2 " Ralph Campbell
2019-06-07 19:13     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 20:21       ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-07 20:44         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 22:13           ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-08  1:47             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2019-06-06 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 hmm 06/11] mm/hmm: Hold on to the mmget for the lifetime of the range Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07  3:15   ` John Hubbard
2019-06-07 20:29   ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-06 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 hmm 07/11] mm/hmm: Use lockdep instead of comments Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07  3:19   ` John Hubbard
2019-06-07 20:31   ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-07 22:16   ` Souptick Joarder
2019-06-06 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 hmm 08/11] mm/hmm: Remove racy protection against double-unregistration Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07  3:29   ` John Hubbard
2019-06-07 13:57     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 20:33   ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-06 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 hmm 09/11] mm/hmm: Poison hmm_range during unregister Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07  3:37   ` John Hubbard
2019-06-07 14:03     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 20:46   ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-07 20:49     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 23:01   ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-06 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 hmm 10/11] mm/hmm: Do not use list*_rcu() for hmm->ranges Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07  3:40   ` John Hubbard
2019-06-07 20:49   ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-07 22:11   ` Souptick Joarder
2019-06-07 23:02   ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-06 18:44 ` [PATCH v2 hmm 11/11] mm/hmm: Remove confusing comment and logic from hmm_release Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07  3:47   ` John Hubbard
2019-06-07 12:58     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 21:37   ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-08  2:12     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-10 16:02     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-10 22:03       ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-07 16:05 ` [PATCH v2 12/11] mm/hmm: Fix error flows in hmm_invalidate_range_start Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 23:52   ` Ralph Campbell
2019-06-08  1:35     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-11 19:48 ` [PATCH v2 hmm 00/11] Various revisions from a locking/code review Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-12 17:54   ` Kuehling, Felix
2019-06-12 21:49     ` Yang, Philip
2019-06-13 17:50       ` Jason Gunthorpe

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