From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63CCC433DF for ; Thu, 21 May 2020 12:24:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kanga.kvack.org (kanga.kvack.org [205.233.56.17]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2CA20825 for ; Thu, 21 May 2020 12:24:46 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=chrisdown.name header.i=@chrisdown.name header.b="ZskJd2rQ" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 8E2CA20825 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=chrisdown.name Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) id 2425C80008; Thu, 21 May 2020 08:24:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 40) id 2190380007; Thu, 21 May 2020 08:24:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Delivered-To: int-list-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 63042) id 0E16D80008; Thu, 21 May 2020 08:24:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Delivered-To: linux-mm@kvack.org Received: from forelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0119.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.119]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAAD280007 for ; Thu, 21 May 2020 08:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpin29.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.251]) by forelay01.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E06180AD820 for ; Thu, 21 May 2020 12:24:45 +0000 (UTC) X-FDA: 76840644930.29.fight90_80d593f2b3a63 X-HE-Tag: fight90_80d593f2b3a63 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 3503 Received: from mail-ej1-f68.google.com (mail-ej1-f68.google.com [209.85.218.68]) by imf17.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 21 May 2020 12:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ej1-f68.google.com with SMTP id z5so8594564ejb.3 for ; Thu, 21 May 2020 05:24:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chrisdown.name; s=google; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=i8JutcblGoAISDN3hurAlHLL13/lujc4PGXCcoNOdiE=; b=ZskJd2rQupY8tV+of+gT2pNGrghG1kvcp0tUt8lYVHWX2N2357xtDLydnxma2icUrj b0RUe9qLlaHWLEn5ePS8DecHifXObN+IFUNHUwWuvKcDjwbkP7AMXFLIg+NakaL4dG4H XE7j3wic9ZZzBWOrSIpnnr08PFqEOA4rd/aeM= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=i8JutcblGoAISDN3hurAlHLL13/lujc4PGXCcoNOdiE=; b=pbkZcLFC/r7ZZwZBRf7UVJogPm6f33l80FFfyKw0O5OXs7PpDH1fmmntHzSztGswqD bQjJjv3wNf3LwWfnjmiVBO6jKjNsLcsQKRTsDVWA2Sb55sifGz1fQsWP8EBxtFVbf2Ko RHsgs7GIKTjjrWKJBPgDcGJidxQ4cxl1QrBAr4ep7ice1z++s+vSqlCz77AijaLPOfj4 HM2a0GMQzw9QyQdPgfa1YLJt9kFM3N8KUM8QEdqxDirLoJ3hJuhQN4Nupc7Xacd09pKJ iDMdmRLrOHrZHT3qX5p5RzOHqGmzxuxIuFQpubOIMKefy6kJJEHhk/L9YLvl/VlBHbsE m2zw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533kj3EVTcJ0Sp6N/CBSn5lQML9D/MD/Xtuc8+ZEFszxjnDMY8oN 3uKItwfVQTlOCFj99Avl061/oQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz9jOOFoXAERCPYL+3i/XvpdtIhar1Xat8M0XTI6E609A9G6xutGG1kGY9fXEK4RxSZ9o8ukg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:3b8d:: with SMTP id u13mr3240093ejf.256.1590063884112; Thu, 21 May 2020 05:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([2620:10d:c093:400::5:4262]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id qn17sm4672101ejb.125.2020.05.21.05.24.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 21 May 2020 05:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 13:24:38 +0100 From: Chris Down To: Michal Hocko Cc: Andrew Morton , Johannes Weiner , Tejun Heo , linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, memcg: reclaim more aggressively before high allocator throttling Message-ID: <20200521122438.GC990580@chrisdown.name> References: <20200520143712.GA749486@chrisdown.name> <20200520160756.GE6462@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20200520202650.GB558281@chrisdown.name> <20200521071929.GH6462@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20200521112711.GA990580@chrisdown.name> <20200521120455.GM6462@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20200521122327.GB990580@chrisdown.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200521122327.GB990580@chrisdown.name> X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: Chris Down writes: >A cgroup is a unit and breaking it down into "reclaim fairness" for >individual tasks like this seems suspect to me. For example, if one >task in a cgroup is leaking unreclaimable memory like crazy, everyone >in that cgroup is going to be penalised by allocator throttling as a >result, even if they aren't "responsible" for that reclaim. s/for that reclaim/for that overage/