From: Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, memcg: reclaim more aggressively before high allocator throttling
Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 14:05:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200521130530.GE990580@chrisdown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200521125759.GD990580@chrisdown.name>
Chris Down writes:
>>I believe I have asked in other email in this thread. Could you explain
>>why enforcint the requested target (memcg_nr_pages_over_high) is
>>insufficient for the problem you are dealing with? Because that would
>>make sense for large targets to me while it would keep relatively
>>reasonable semantic of the throttling - aka proportional to the memory
>>demand rather than the excess.
>
>memcg_nr_pages_over_high is related to the charge size. As such, if
>you're way over memory.high as a result of transient reclaim failures,
>but the majority of your charges are small, it's going to hard to make
>meaningful progress:
>
>1. Most nr_pages will be MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH, which is not enough to help;
>2. Large allocations will only get a single reclaim attempt to succeed.
>
>As such, in many cases we're either doomed to successfully reclaim a
>paltry amount of pages, or fail to reclaim a lot of pages. Asking
>try_to_free_pages() to deal with those huge allocations is generally
>not reasonable, regardless of the specifics of why it doesn't work in
>this case.
Oh, I somehow elided the "enforcing" part of your proposal. Still, there's no
guarantee even if large allocations are reclaimed fully that we will end up
going back below memory.high, because even a single other large allocation
which fails to reclaim can knock us out of whack again.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-21 13:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-20 14:37 [PATCH] mm, memcg: reclaim more aggressively before high allocator throttling Chris Down
2020-05-20 16:07 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-20 16:51 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-20 17:04 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-20 17:51 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-21 7:32 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 13:51 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-21 14:22 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-21 14:35 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 15:02 ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 16:38 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-21 17:37 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 18:45 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-28 16:31 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-28 16:48 ` Chris Down
2020-05-29 7:31 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-29 10:08 ` Chris Down
2020-05-29 10:14 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-28 20:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-20 20:26 ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 7:19 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 11:27 ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 12:04 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 12:23 ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 12:24 ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 12:37 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 12:57 ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 13:05 ` Chris Down [this message]
2020-05-21 13:28 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 13:21 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 13:41 ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 13:58 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-21 14:22 ` Chris Down
2020-05-21 12:28 ` Michal Hocko
2020-05-28 18:02 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-05-28 19:48 ` Chris Down
2020-05-28 20:29 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-05-28 21:02 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-05-28 21:14 ` Chris Down
2020-05-29 7:25 ` Michal Hocko
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