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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Evgenii Stepanov <eugenis@google.com>
Cc: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	Peter Collingbourne <pcc@google.com>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Dave P Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 11/26] arm64: mte: Add PROT_MTE support to mmap() and mprotect()
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 12:19:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200529111949.GA23332@gaia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFKCwri+X=de0gFrMZfA84dYmftSkcDc0DEvQ2JAmeOw2sLR=A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 11:35:50AM -0700, Evgenii Stepanov wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:34 AM Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 12:05:09PM +0100, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> > > On 05/28/2020 10:14, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > > I don't think the stack initialisation is that difficult. On program
> > > > startup (can be the dynamic loader). Something like (untested):
> > > >
> > > >     register unsigned long stack asm ("sp");
> > > >     unsigned long page_sz = sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE);
> > > >
> > > >     mprotect((void *)(stack & ~(page_sz - 1)), page_sz,
> > > >              PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE | PROT_MTE | PROT_GROWSDOWN);
> > > >
> > > > (the essential part it PROT_GROWSDOWN so that you don't have to specify
> > > > a stack lower limit)
> > >
> > > does this work even if the currently mapped stack is more than page_sz?
> > > determining the mapped main stack area is i think non-trivial to do in
> > > userspace (requires parsing /proc/self/maps or similar).
> >
> > Because of PROT_GROWSDOWN, the kernel adjusts the start of the range
> > down automatically. It is potentially problematic if the top of the
> > stack is more than a page away and you want the whole stack coloured. I
> > haven't run a test but my reading of the kernel code is that the stack
> > vma would be split in this scenario, so the range beyond sp+page_sz
> > won't have PROT_MTE set.
> >
> > My assumption is that if you do this during program start, the stack is
> > smaller than a page. Alternatively, could we use argv or envp to
> > determine the top of the user stack (the bottom is taken care of by the
> > kernel)?
> 
> PROT_GROWSDOWN seems to work fine in our case, and the extra tag
> maintenance overhead sounds like a valid argument against setting PROT_MTE
> unconditionally.
> 
> On the other hand, we may end up doing this in the userspace in every
> process. The reason is, PROT_MTE can not be set on a page that contains a
> live frame with stack tagging because of mismatching tags (IRG is not
> affected by PROT_MTE but STG is). So ideally, this should be done at (or
> near) the program entry point, while the stack is mostly empty.

Since stack tagging cannot use instructions in the NOP space anyway, I
think we need an ELF note to check for the presence of STG etc. and, in
addition, we can turn PROT_MTE by default on the initial stack. Maybe on
such binaries we could just set PROT_MTE on all anonymous and ramfs
mappings (i.e. VM_MTE_ALLOWED implies VM_MTE).

For dynamically linked binaries, we base this decision on the main ELF,
not the interpreter, and it would be up to the dynamic loader to reject
libraries that have such note when HWCAP2_MTE is not present.

> > > (and eventually there should be a way to use PROT_MTE on
> > > writable global data and appropriate code generation that
> > > takes colors into account when globals are accessed, but
> > > that requires significant ELF, ld.so and compiler changes,
> > > that need not be part of the initial mte design).
> >
> > The .data section needs to be driven by the ELF information. It's also a
> > file mapping and we don't support PROT_MTE on them even if MAP_PRIVATE.
> > There are complications like DAX where the file you mmap for CoW may be
> > hosted on memory that does not support MTE (copied to RAM on write).
> >
> > Is there a use-case for global data to be tagged?
> 
> Yes, catching global buffer overflow bugs. They are not nearly as
> common as heap-based issues though.

OK, so these would be tagged red-zones around global data. IIUC, having
different colours for global variables was not considered because of the
relocations and relative accesses.

If such red-zone colouring is done during load (the dynamic linker?), we
could set PROT_MTE only when MAP_PRIVATE and copied on write to make
sure it is in RAM. As above, I think this should be driven by some ELF
information.

There's also the option of scrapping PROT_MTE altogether and enabling
MTE (default tag 0) on all anonymous and private+copied pages (i.e.
those stored in RAM). At this point, I can't really tell whether there
will be a performance impact.

-- 
Catalin


  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-29 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-15 17:15 [PATCH v4 00/26] arm64: Memory Tagging Extension user-space support Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:15 ` [PATCH v4 01/26] arm64: mte: system register definitions Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:15 ` [PATCH v4 02/26] arm64: mte: CPU feature detection and initial sysreg configuration Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:15 ` [PATCH v4 03/26] arm64: mte: Use Normal Tagged attributes for the linear map Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:15 ` [PATCH v4 04/26] arm64: mte: Add specific SIGSEGV codes Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:15 ` [PATCH v4 05/26] arm64: mte: Handle synchronous and asynchronous tag check faults Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:15 ` [PATCH v4 06/26] mm: Add PG_ARCH_2 page flag Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:15 ` [PATCH v4 07/26] arm64: mte: Clear the tags when a page is mapped in user-space with PROT_MTE Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:15 ` [PATCH v4 08/26] arm64: mte: Tags-aware copy_page() implementation Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:15 ` [PATCH v4 09/26] arm64: mte: Tags-aware aware memcmp_pages() implementation Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:15 ` [PATCH v4 10/26] mm: Introduce arch_calc_vm_flag_bits() Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:15 ` [PATCH v4 11/26] arm64: mte: Add PROT_MTE support to mmap() and mprotect() Catalin Marinas
2020-05-27 18:57   ` Peter Collingbourne
2020-05-28  9:14     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-28 11:05       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-05-28 16:34         ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-28 18:35           ` Evgenii Stepanov
2020-05-29 11:19             ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2020-06-01  8:55           ` Dave Martin
2020-06-01 14:45             ` Catalin Marinas
2020-06-01 15:04               ` Dave Martin
2020-05-15 17:15 ` [PATCH v4 12/26] mm: Introduce arch_validate_flags() Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:15 ` [PATCH v4 13/26] arm64: mte: Validate the PROT_MTE request via arch_validate_flags() Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 14/26] mm: Allow arm64 mmap(PROT_MTE) on RAM-based files Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 15/26] arm64: mte: Allow user control of the tag check mode via prctl() Catalin Marinas
2020-05-27  7:46   ` Will Deacon
2020-05-27  8:32     ` Dave Martin
2020-05-27  8:48       ` Will Deacon
2020-05-27 11:16       ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 16/26] arm64: mte: Allow user control of the generated random tags " Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 17/26] arm64: mte: Restore the GCR_EL1 register after a suspend Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 18/26] arm64: mte: Add PTRACE_{PEEK,POKE}MTETAGS support Catalin Marinas
2020-05-29 21:25   ` Luis Machado
2020-06-01 12:07     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-06-01 15:17       ` Luis Machado
2020-06-01 16:33         ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 19/26] fs: Handle intra-page faults in copy_mount_options() Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 20/26] mm: Add arch hooks for saving/restoring tags Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 21/26] arm64: mte: Enable swap of tagged pages Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 22/26] arm64: mte: Save tags when hibernating Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 23/26] arm64: mte: Check the DT memory nodes for MTE support Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 24/26] arm64: mte: Introduce early param to disable " Catalin Marinas
2020-05-18 11:26   ` Vladimir Murzin
2020-05-18 11:31     ` Will Deacon
2020-05-18 17:20       ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-22  5:57         ` Patrick Daly
2020-05-22 10:37           ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-27  2:11             ` Patrick Daly
2020-05-27  9:55               ` Will Deacon
2020-05-27 10:37                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-05-27 11:12                 ` Catalin Marinas
2020-05-19 16:14     ` Catalin Marinas
2021-01-21 19:37   ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-01-22  2:03     ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-01-22 14:41     ` Catalin Marinas
2021-01-22 17:28       ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-05-15 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 25/26] arm64: mte: Kconfig entry Catalin Marinas
2020-05-15 17:16 ` [PATCH v4 26/26] arm64: mte: Add Memory Tagging Extension documentation Catalin Marinas

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