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[94.245.46.49]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o128sm2313144lfa.110.2020.09.24.08.21.14 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 24 Sep 2020 08:21:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Uladzislau Rezki X-Google-Original-From: Uladzislau Rezki Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 17:21:12 +0200 To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Uladzislau Rezki , Mel Gorman , "Paul E. McKenney" , Michal Hocko , LKML , RCU , linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton , Vlastimil Babka , Thomas Gleixner , "Theodore Y . Ts'o" , Joel Fernandes , Sebastian Andrzej Siewior , Oleksiy Avramchenko , Mel Gorman Subject: Re: [RFC-PATCH 2/4] mm: Add __rcu_alloc_page_lockless() func. Message-ID: <20200924152112.GB19013@pc636> References: <20200921154558.GD29330@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20200921160318.GO12990@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20200921194819.GA24236@pc636> <20200922075002.GU12990@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20200922131257.GA29241@pc636> <20200923103706.GJ3179@techsingularity.net> <20200923154105.GO29330@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> <20200923232251.GK3179@techsingularity.net> <20200924081614.GA14819@pc636> <20200924111907.GE2628@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200924111907.GE2628@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 01:19:07PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 10:16:14AM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki wrote: > > The key point is "enough". We need pages to make a) fast progress b) support > > single argument of kvfree_rcu(one_arg). Not vice versa. That "enough" depends > > on scheduler latency and vague pre-allocated number of pages, it might > > be not enough what would require to refill it more and more or we can overshoot > > that would lead to memory overhead. So we have here timing issues and > > not accurate model. IMHO. > > I'm firmly opposed to the single argument kvfree_rcu() idea, that's > requiring memory to free memory. > Hmm.. The problem is there is a demand in it: Please have a look at places in the kernel where people do not embed the rcu_head into their stuctures and do like: synchronize_rcu(); kfree(p); urezki@pc638:~/data/coding/linux-rcu.git$ find ./ -name "*.c" | xargs grep -C 1 -rn "synchronize_rcu" | grep kfree ./fs/nfs/sysfs.c-113- kfree(old); ./fs/ext4/super.c-1708- kfree(old_qname); ./kernel/trace/ftrace.c-5079- kfree(direct); ./kernel/trace/ftrace.c-5156- kfree(direct); ./kernel/trace/trace_probe.c-1087- kfree(link); ./kernel/module.c-3910- kfree(mod->args); ./net/core/sysctl_net_core.c-143- kfree(cur); ./arch/x86/mm/mmio-mod.c-314- kfree(found_trace); ./drivers/mfd/dln2.c-183- kfree(i); ./drivers/block/drbd/drbd_state.c-2074- kfree(old_conf); ./drivers/block/drbd/drbd_nl.c-1689- kfree(old_disk_conf); ./drivers/block/drbd/drbd_nl.c-2522- kfree(old_net_conf); ./drivers/block/drbd/drbd_nl.c-2935- kfree(old_disk_conf); ./drivers/block/drbd/drbd_receiver.c-3805- kfree(old_net_conf); ./drivers/block/drbd/drbd_receiver.c-4177- kfree(old_disk_conf); ./drivers/ipack/carriers/tpci200.c-189- kfree(slot_irq); ./drivers/crypto/nx/nx-842-pseries.c-1010- kfree(old_devdata); ./drivers/net/ethernet/myricom/myri10ge/myri10ge.c-3583- kfree(mgp->ss); ./drivers/net/ethernet/mellanox/mlx5/core/fpga/tls.c:286: synchronize_rcu(); /* before kfree(flow) */ ./drivers/net/ethernet/mellanox/mlxsw/core.c-1574- kfree(rxl_item); ./drivers/net/ethernet/chelsio/cxgb4/cxgb4_main.c-6642- kfree(adapter->mbox_log); ./drivers/net/ethernet/chelsio/cxgb4/cxgb4_main.c-6644- kfree(adapter); ./drivers/infiniband/hw/hfi1/sdma.c-1337- kfree(dd->per_sdma); ./drivers/infiniband/core/device.c:2164: * synchronize_rcu before the netdev is kfreed, so we ./drivers/misc/vmw_vmci/vmci_context.c-692- kfree(notifier); ./drivers/misc/vmw_vmci/vmci_event.c-213- kfree(s); ./drivers/staging/fwserial/fwserial.c-2122- kfree(peer); urezki@pc638:~/data/coding/linux-rcu.git$ -- Vlad Rezki