From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>,
Kirill Shutemov <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] mm: Introduce mm_struct.has_pinned
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 21:41:36 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200926004136.GJ9916@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whDSH_MRMt80JaSwoquzt=1nQ-0n3w0aVngoWPAc10BCw@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 02:06:59PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 12:56 PM Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > And honestly, since this is all getting fairly late in the rc, and it
> > took longer than I thought, I think we should do the GFP_ATOMIC
> > approach for now - not great, but since it only triggers for this case
> > that really should never happen anyway, I think it's probably the best
> > thing for 5.9, and we can improve on things later.
>
> I'm not super-happy with this patch, but I'm throwing it out anyway, in case
>
> (a) somebody can test it - I don't have any test cases
It looks like it will work and resolve the RDMA case that triggered
this discussion. I will send it to our testers, should hear back
around Monday.
They previously said Peter's v1 patch worked, expecting the same here,
unless something unexpected hits the extra pre-conditions.
Though, we might hit the THP case and find it fails...
> (b) somebody can find issues and improve on it
The THP hunks from Peter's series looked pretty straightforward, I'd
include at least the PMD one.
As a tiny optimization, the preconditions in copy_normal_page() could
order the atomics last to try and reduce the atomics done per fork.
> I'm happy to take Peter's series too, this is more of an alternative
> simplified version to keep the discussion going.
I don't completely grok the consequences of the anon_vma check. We
can exclude file backed mappings as they are broken for pinning
anyhow, so what is left that could be MAP_PRIVATE of a non-anon_vma?
Feels obscure, probably OK. If something does break userspace could
use MAP_SHARED and be fixed.
Otherwise, I do prefer Peter's version because of the GFP_KERNEL. To
touch on your other email..
It was my hope we could move away from the "This should never
happen". From a RDMA POV this idea was sort of managable years ago,
but now I have folks writing data science/ML software in Python that
deep under the libraries use RDMA and has pinned pages. It was a
Python program that detected this regression.
Having all that "just work" regardless of what foolish stuff happens
in the Python layer is very appealing.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-26 0:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-21 21:17 [PATCH 0/5] mm: Break COW for pinned pages during fork() Peter Xu
2020-09-21 21:17 ` [PATCH 1/5] mm: Introduce mm_struct.has_pinned Peter Xu
2020-09-21 21:43 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-21 22:30 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-21 22:47 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-22 11:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-22 14:28 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-22 15:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-22 16:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-21 23:53 ` John Hubbard
2020-09-22 0:01 ` John Hubbard
2020-09-22 15:17 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-22 16:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-22 17:54 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-22 19:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-23 0:27 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-23 13:10 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-23 14:20 ` Jan Kara
2020-09-23 17:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-24 7:44 ` Jan Kara
2020-09-24 14:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-24 14:45 ` Jan Kara
2020-09-23 17:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-24 14:35 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-24 16:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-24 17:55 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-24 18:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-24 18:34 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-24 18:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-24 21:30 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-25 19:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-25 21:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-26 0:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-09-26 1:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-26 22:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-27 6:23 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-27 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-27 18:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-28 12:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-28 16:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-28 17:22 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-28 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-28 18:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-28 19:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-28 23:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-29 0:18 ` John Hubbard
2020-09-28 19:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-28 19:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-28 22:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-29 0:30 ` Peter Xu
2020-10-08 5:49 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-28 17:13 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-25 21:13 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-25 22:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-22 18:02 ` John Hubbard
2020-09-22 18:15 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-22 19:11 ` John Hubbard
2020-09-27 0:41 ` [mm] 698ac7610f: will-it-scale.per_thread_ops 8.2% improvement kernel test robot
2020-09-21 21:17 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm/fork: Pass new vma pointer into copy_page_range() Peter Xu
2020-09-21 21:17 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: Rework return value for copy_one_pte() Peter Xu
2020-09-22 7:11 ` John Hubbard
2020-09-22 15:29 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-22 10:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-22 10:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-22 15:36 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-22 15:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-22 16:03 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-22 16:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-22 18:13 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-22 18:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-22 18:49 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-23 6:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-23 17:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-23 21:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-21 21:20 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: Do early cow for pinned pages during fork() for ptes Peter Xu
2020-09-21 21:55 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-21 22:18 ` John Hubbard
2020-09-21 22:27 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-22 0:08 ` John Hubbard
2020-09-21 22:27 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-22 11:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-22 12:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-22 15:58 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-22 16:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-22 18:34 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-22 18:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-23 1:03 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-23 20:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-24 15:08 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-24 11:48 ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-09-24 15:16 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-21 21:20 ` [PATCH 5/5] mm/thp: Split huge pmds/puds if they're pinned when fork() Peter Xu
2020-09-22 6:41 ` John Hubbard
2020-09-22 10:33 ` Jan Kara
2020-09-22 20:01 ` John Hubbard
2020-09-23 9:22 ` Jan Kara
2020-09-23 13:50 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-23 14:01 ` Jan Kara
2020-09-23 15:44 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-23 20:19 ` John Hubbard
2020-09-24 18:49 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-23 16:06 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-22 12:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-23 15:24 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-23 16:07 ` Yang Shi
2020-09-24 15:47 ` Peter Xu
2020-09-24 17:29 ` Yang Shi
2020-09-23 17:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-23 10:21 ` [PATCH 0/5] mm: Break COW for pinned pages during fork() Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-23 15:37 ` Peter Xu
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