From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27D2C56201 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 13:36:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kanga.kvack.org (kanga.kvack.org [205.233.56.17]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FDB20872 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 13:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=suse.com header.i=@suse.com header.b="IvMw/JSb" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org F3FDB20872 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=suse.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) id 6F43A6B0134; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 08:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 40) id 6A48F6B0136; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 08:36:47 -0500 (EST) X-Delivered-To: int-list-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 63042) id 593626B0137; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 08:36:47 -0500 (EST) X-Delivered-To: linux-mm@kvack.org Received: from forelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0204.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.204]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400EE6B0134 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 08:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtpin09.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.251]) by forelay01.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0906F180AD817 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 13:36:47 +0000 (UTC) X-FDA: 77519412054.09.cover17_630f1eb2736e Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (10.5.16.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.16.251]) by smtpin09.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4068180AD811 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 13:36:46 +0000 (UTC) X-HE-Tag: cover17_630f1eb2736e X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 3364 Received: from mx2.suse.de (mx2.suse.de [195.135.220.15]) by imf04.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 13:36:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.com; s=susede1; t=1606225005; h=from:from:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc: mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=2c/SYhOtoyvJtV/p2zTmvjzRC4P9vVyA8jCHuZPunMs=; b=IvMw/JSbQDq0vmancWDg21W2VAQ1wUzQCSeLYFvoGwcDnzw+FvEofTkT6j2f32KusClcTm gpnaMYVBCblguuMiAqxjEaBCLaP7YBVf4QHm3cElJX5I5QLWvcitJFCxWkF4u1eUwEB36w 5KqfFbSF2b7WAaZUUtX3L1+eO6UjXAA= Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.221.27]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A24BADE1; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 13:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 14:36:44 +0100 From: Michal Hocko To: Aaron Tomlin Cc: linux-kernel , hannes@cmpxchg.org, vdavydov.dev@gmail.com, Andrew Morton , cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: add support to generate the total count of children from root Message-ID: <20201124133644.GA31550@dhcp22.suse.cz> References: <20201124105836.713371-1-atomlin@redhat.com> <20201124112612.GV27488@dhcp22.suse.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Tue 24-11-20 13:27:32, Aaron Tomlin wrote: > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at 11:26, Michal Hocko wrote: > > > On Tue 24-11-20 10:58:36, Aaron Tomlin wrote: > > > Each memory-controlled cgroup is assigned a unique ID and the total > > > number of memory cgroups is limited to MEM_CGROUP_ID_MAX. > > > > > > This patch provides the ability to determine the number of > > > memory cgroups from the root memory cgroup, only. > > > A value of 1 (i.e. self count) is returned if there are no children. > > > For example, the number of memory cgroups can be established by > > > reading the /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/memory.total_cnt file. > > > > Hi Michal, > > > > Could you add some explanation why is this information useful for > > userspace? Who is going to use it and why a simple scripting on top of > > cgroupfs is insufficient. > > > > Thank you for your feedback. > > Indeed, one can use a command/script to manually calculate this. > Having said that, one that creates a significant number of > memory-controlled cgroups may prefer a quick, simple and reliable method > to generate the aforementioned data, for management purposes only. > As such, I thought this patch might be particularly useful. This like any other user visible interface would be a much easier sell if there was a clear usecase to justify it. I do not see anything controversial about exporting such a value but my general take is that we are only adding new interface when existing ones are insufficient. A performance might be a very good reason but that would really require to come with some real life numbers. Thanks! -- Michal Hocko SUSE Labs