From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_2 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD9FC48BDF for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 20:03:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kanga.kvack.org (kanga.kvack.org [205.233.56.17]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3556136D for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 20:03:53 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 7F3556136D Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) id 979FD6B0072; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:03:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 40) id 929FF6B0073; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:03:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Delivered-To: int-list-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 63042) id 7A36D6B0074; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:03:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Delivered-To: linux-mm@kvack.org Received: from forelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0072.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.72]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5866B0072 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:03:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpin19.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.251]) by forelay01.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02161802ACC7 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 20:03:51 +0000 (UTC) X-FDA: 78238889862.19.746DBD9 Received: from smtprelay.test.hostedemail.com (mail.test.hostedemail.com [216.40.41.5]) by imf25.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7886000140 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 20:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from forelay.test.hostedemail.com (10.5.29.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.29.251]) by smtprelay01.test.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8AC11CEC for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 20:03:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from forelay.prod.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.251]) by fograve01.test.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD1323810 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 20:03:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpin30.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.251]) by forelay05.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68556181AEF30 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 20:02:50 +0000 (UTC) X-FDA: 78238887300.30.0BD64E8 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by imf05.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58813E000253 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 20:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oasis.local.home (cpe-66-24-58-225.stny.res.rr.com [66.24.58.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BCB4D6136D; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 20:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:02:46 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Shuah Khan Cc: Laurent Pinchart , Konstantin Ryabitsev , "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" , David Hildenbrand , James Bottomley , Greg KH , Christoph Lameter , Theodore Ts'o , Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off Message-ID: <20210610160246.13722775@oasis.local.home> In-Reply-To: <37e8d1a5-7c32-8e77-bb05-f851c87a1004@linuxfoundation.org> References: <5038827c-463f-232d-4dec-da56c71089bd@metux.net> <20210610182318.jrxe3avfhkqq7xqn@nitro.local> <20210610152633.7e4a7304@oasis.local.home> <37e8d1a5-7c32-8e77-bb05-f851c87a1004@linuxfoundation.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HE-Tag: 1623355363-225647 X-Rspamd-Server: rspam05 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: AF7886000140 X-Stat-Signature: tgmxpgbcggq746g3pxdow7sq5hbss88h Authentication-Results: imf25.hostedemail.com; dkim=none; spf=softfail (imf25.hostedemail.com: 216.40.41.5 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of "SRS0=mBZH=LE=goodmis.org=rostedt@kernel.org") smtp.mailfrom="SRS0=mBZH=LE=goodmis.org=rostedt@kernel.org"; dmarc=none X-HE-Tag: 1623355426-449700 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 13:55:23 -0600 Shuah Khan wrote: > You are absolutely right that the remote people will have a hard time > participating and keeping up with in-person participants. I have a > couple of ideas on how we might be able to improve remote experience > without restricting in-person experience. > > - Have one or two moderators per session to watch chat and Q&A to enable > remote participants to chime in and participate. > - Moderators can make sure remote participation doesn't go unnoticed and > enable taking turns for remote vs. people participating in person. > > It will be change in the way we interact in all in-person sessions for > sure, however it might enhance the experience for remote attendees. I have no problem with the above suggestion, and I envision that this may be the norm going forward. What is still missing is the interactions of the hallway track and the evening events. I was thinking about how we could get the remote folks in on what happened there right afterward, which is why I'm suggesting breakout rooms like Laurent suggested as well, but at the end of the conference, and perhaps the conversations of the previous night could continue with a remote presence. -- Steve