From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_2 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B61C49EA5 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2021 14:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kanga.kvack.org (kanga.kvack.org [205.233.56.17]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636EF611B0 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2021 14:17:14 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 636EF611B0 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) id B740B6B006E; Fri, 18 Jun 2021 10:17:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 40) id B37136B0071; Fri, 18 Jun 2021 10:17:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Delivered-To: int-list-linux-mm@kvack.org Received: by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix, from userid 63042) id 9C4F06B0074; Fri, 18 Jun 2021 10:17:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Delivered-To: linux-mm@kvack.org Received: from forelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0186.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.186]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B75C6B006E for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2021 10:17:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpin35.hostedemail.com (10.5.19.251.rfc1918.com [10.5.19.251]) by forelay01.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05721180AD820 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2021 14:17:13 +0000 (UTC) X-FDA: 78267046746.35.3E438BE Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by imf19.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCD89001EC8 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2021 14:17:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from oasis.local.home (cpe-66-24-58-225.stny.res.rr.com [66.24.58.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 542ED610CD; Fri, 18 Jun 2021 14:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 10:17:08 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: James Bottomley Cc: Laurent Pinchart , Shuah Khan , Konstantin Ryabitsev , "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" , David Hildenbrand , Greg KH , Christoph Lameter , Theodore Ts'o , Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off Message-ID: <20210618101708.7ff6d67a@oasis.local.home> In-Reply-To: References: <5038827c-463f-232d-4dec-da56c71089bd@metux.net> <20210610182318.jrxe3avfhkqq7xqn@nitro.local> <20210610152633.7e4a7304@oasis.local.home> <37e8d1a5-7c32-8e77-bb05-f851c87a1004@linuxfoundation.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Authentication-Results: imf19.hostedemail.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (imf19.hostedemail.com: domain of "SRS0=ahmz=LM=goodmis.org=rostedt@kernel.org" designates 198.145.29.99 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="SRS0=ahmz=LM=goodmis.org=rostedt@kernel.org"; dmarc=none X-Rspamd-Server: rspam03 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: ADCD89001EC8 X-Stat-Signature: j1gkk48hr7pc15rzmftpggfrd4scxcsr X-HE-Tag: 1624025832-83593 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 07:11:44 -0700 James Bottomley wrote: > On Fri, 2021-06-18 at 16:46 +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > For workshop or brainstorming types of sessions, the highest barrier > > to participation for remote attendees is local attendees not speaking > > in microphones. That's the number one rule that moderators would need > > to enforce, I think all the rest depends on it. This may require a > > larger number of microphones in the room than usual. > > Plumbers has been pretty good at that. Even before remote > participation, if people don't speak into the mic, it's not captured on > the recording, so we've spent ages developing protocols for this. > Mostly centred around having someone in the room to remind everyone to > speak into the mic and easily throwable padded mic boxes. Ironically, > this is the detail that meant we couldn't hold Plumbers in person under > the current hotel protocols ... the mic needs sanitizing after each > throw. > Plumbers also has the advantage of having a throwable mic. And not just one of them, we have two and a normal mic as well as a lavalier mic. Having someone running around the audience passing the mic is not very efficient, and having to get up and stand at a microphone, may be too intimidating for some. -- Steve