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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Jordy Zomer <jordy@pwning.systems>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] secretmem: Prevent secretmem_users from wrapping to zero
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 14:04:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202110251402.ADFA4D41BF@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YXcKzKVX7NTAtvPh@casper.infradead.org>

On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 08:51:40PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 12:29:46PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 07:16:34PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox (Oracle) wrote:
> > > Commit 110860541f44 ("mm/secretmem: use refcount_t instead of atomic_t")
> > > attempted to fix the problem of secretmem_users wrapping to zero and
> > > allowing suspend once again.  Prevent secretmem_users from wrapping to
> > > zero by forbidding new users if the number of users has wrapped from
> > > positive to negative.  This stops a long way short of reaching the
> > > necessary 4 billion users, so there's no need to be clever with special
> > > anti-wrap types or checking the return value from atomic_inc().
> > 
> > I still prefer refcount_t here because it provides deterministic
> > saturation, but the risk right now is so narrow ("don't hibernate"),
> > I'm not going to fight for it. I think it'd be fine to use it initialized
> > to 1, and have the removal check for == 0 as a failure state, which would
> > deterministically cover the underflow case too.
> 
> I still think that's abusing the refcount_t pattern.  refcount_t should
> be for ... reference counts.  Not these other things.

Is secretmem different? We're trying to count how many of these we have,
this is a common pattern in, for example, the network code which does
this kind of thing a lot.

It's just that for a "global" counter like here, we're not tied to a
specific object's lifetime, but usually some global state that depends
on having _any_ of the objects alive.

-- 
Kees Cook


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-25 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-25 18:16 [PATCH] secretmem: Prevent secretmem_users from wrapping to zero Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-25 19:29 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-25 19:51   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-25 21:04     ` Kees Cook [this message]
2021-10-25 21:17       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-25 22:30         ` Kees Cook
2021-10-25 23:37           ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-26  0:02             ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-26  0:17             ` Kees Cook
2021-10-26  1:10               ` Linus Torvalds
2021-10-26  1:34             ` Matthew Wilcox

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