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From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com>
To: Ying Huang <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	Aneesh Kumar K V <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Greg Thelen" <gthelen@google.com>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	"Davidlohr Bueso" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Tim C Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
	Brice Goglin <brice.goglin@gmail.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hesham Almatary <hesham.almatary@huawei.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"Alistair Popple" <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Feng Tang" <feng.tang@intel.com>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Jagdish Gediya <jvgediya@linux.ibm.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"David Rientjes" <rientjes@google.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: Memory Tiering Kernel Interfaces (v3)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2022 13:50:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220530135043.00001e88@Huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1281d918c07b05ac82aee290018ad08d212e0aaa.camel@intel.com>

On Sun, 29 May 2022 12:31:30 +0800
Ying Huang <ying.huang@intel.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 2022-05-27 at 09:30 -0700, Wei Xu wrote:
> > On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 6:41 AM Aneesh Kumar K V
> > <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com> wrote:  
> > > 
> > > On 5/27/22 2:52 AM, Wei Xu wrote:
> > >   
> > > >    The order of memory tiers is determined by their rank values, not by
> > > >    their memtier device names.
> > > > 
> > > >    - /sys/devices/system/memtier/possible
> > > > 
> > > >      Format: ordered list of "memtier(rank)"
> > > >      Example: 0(64), 1(128), 2(192)
> > > > 
> > > >      Read-only.  When read, list all available memory tiers and their
> > > >      associated ranks, ordered by the rank values (from the highest
> > > >       tier to the lowest tier).
> > > >   
> > > 
> > > Did we discuss the need for this? I haven't done this in the patch
> > > series I sent across.  
> > 
> > The "possible" file is only needed if we decide to hide the
> > directories of memtiers that have no nodes.  We can remove this
> > interface and always show all memtier directories to keep things
> > simpler.  
> 
> When discussed offline, Tim Chen pointed out that with the proposed
> interface, it's unconvenient to know the position of a given memory tier
> in all memory tiers.  We must sort "rank" of all memory tiers to know
> that.  "possible" file can be used for that.  Although "possible" file
> can be generated with a shell script, it's more convenient to show it
> directly.
> 
> Another way to address the issue is to add memtierN/pos for each memory
> tier as suggested by Tim.  It's readonly and will show position of
> "memtierN" in all memory tiers.  It's even better to show the relative
> postion to the default memory tier (DRAM with CPU). That is, the
> position of DRAM memory tier is 0.
> 
> Unlike memory tier device ID or rank, the position is relative and
> dynamic.

Hi,

I'm unconvinced.  This is better done with a shell script than
by adding ABI we'll have to live with for ever..

I'm no good at shell scripting but this does the job 
grep "" tier*/rank | sort -n -k 2 -t : 

tier2/rank:50
tier0/rank:100
tier1/rank:200
tier3/rank:240

I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will do it in a simpler fashion still.

Jonathan

> 
> Best Regards,
> Huang, Ying
> 
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-30 12:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-26 21:22 RFC: Memory Tiering Kernel Interfaces (v3) Wei Xu
2022-05-27  2:58 ` Ying Huang
2022-05-27 14:05   ` Hesham Almatary
2022-05-27 16:25     ` Wei Xu
2022-05-27 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/7] mm/demotion: Memory tiers and demotion Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 12:25   ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/7] mm/demotion: Add support for explicit memory tiers Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 13:59     ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-02  6:07     ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06  2:49       ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06  3:56         ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06  5:33           ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06  6:01             ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06  6:27               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-06  7:53                 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06  8:01                   ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06  8:52                     ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06  9:02                       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08  1:24                         ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08  7:16     ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08  8:24       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08  8:27         ` Ying Huang
2022-05-27 12:25   ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/7] mm/demotion: Expose per node memory tier to sysfs Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 14:15     ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-03  8:40       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 14:59         ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-06 16:01           ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 16:16             ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-06 16:39               ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 17:46                 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-07 14:32                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-08  7:18     ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08  8:25       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08  8:29         ` Ying Huang
2022-05-27 12:25   ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/7] mm/demotion: Build demotion targets based on explicit memory tiers Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 14:31     ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-05-30  3:35     ` [mm/demotion] 8ebccd60c2: BUG:sleeping_function_called_from_invalid_context_at_mm/compaction.c kernel test robot
2022-05-27 12:25   ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/7] mm/demotion/dax/kmem: Set node's memory tier to MEMORY_TIER_PMEM Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-01  6:29     ` Bharata B Rao
2022-06-01 13:49       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-02  6:36         ` Bharata B Rao
2022-06-03  9:04           ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 10:11             ` Bharata B Rao
2022-06-06 10:16               ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 11:54                 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-06 12:09                   ` Bharata B Rao
2022-06-06 13:00                     ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-05-27 12:25   ` [RFC PATCH v4 5/7] mm/demotion: Add support to associate rank with memory tier Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 14:45     ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-05-27 15:45       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-05-30 12:36         ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-02  6:41     ` Ying Huang
2022-05-27 12:25   ` [RFC PATCH v4 6/7] mm/demotion: Add support for removing node from demotion memory tiers Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-02  6:43     ` Ying Huang
2022-05-27 12:25   ` [RFC PATCH v4 7/7] mm/demotion: Demote pages according to allocation fallback order Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-05-27 15:03     ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-02  7:35     ` Ying Huang
2022-06-03 15:09       ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06  0:43         ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06  4:07           ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06  5:26             ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06  6:21               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-06  7:42                 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06  8:02                   ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06  8:06                     ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06 17:07               ` Yang Shi
2022-05-27 13:40 ` RFC: Memory Tiering Kernel Interfaces (v3) Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-05-27 16:30   ` Wei Xu
2022-05-29  4:31     ` Ying Huang
2022-05-30 12:50       ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2022-05-31  1:57         ` Ying Huang
2022-06-07 19:25         ` Tim Chen
2022-06-08  4:41           ` Aneesh Kumar K V

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