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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Ivan Babrou <ivan@cloudflare.com>,  Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	 Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
	 David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	 cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team <kernel-team@cloudflare.com>
Subject: Re: Low TCP throughput due to vmpressure with swap enabled
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2022 00:31:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221208003136.fxm6msgiswl2xdac@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y5CMrPMDxngMZWN8@cmpxchg.org>

On Wed, Dec 07, 2022 at 01:53:00PM +0100, Johannes Weiner wrote:
[...]
> 
> I don't mind doing that if necessary, but looking at the code I don't
> see why it would be.
> 
> The socket code sets protocol memory pressure on allocations that run
> into limits, and clears pressure on allocations that succeed and
> frees. Why shouldn't we do the same thing for memcg?
> 

I think you are right. Let's go with whatever you have for now as this
will reduce vmpressure dependency.

However I think there are still open issues that needs to be addressed
in the future:

1. Unlike TCP memory accounting, memcg has to account/charge user
memory, kernel memory and tcp/netmem. So, it might make more sense to
enter the pressure state in try_charge_memcg() function. This means
charging of user memory or kernel memory can also put the memcg under
socket pressure.

2. On RX path, the memcg charge can succeed due to GFP_ATOMIC flag.
Should we reset the pressure state in that case?

3. On uncharge path, unlike network stack, should we unconditionally
reset the socket pressure state?

Shakeel


      reply	other threads:[~2022-12-08  0:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-22  0:53 Low TCP throughput due to vmpressure with swap enabled Ivan Babrou
2022-11-22 18:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2022-11-22 18:11   ` Ivan Babrou
2022-11-22 18:23     ` Eric Dumazet
2022-11-22 18:59 ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-22 19:05   ` Ivan Babrou
2022-11-22 19:08     ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-22 19:46 ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-22 20:05   ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-23  0:44     ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-23 21:22       ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-24  1:18         ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-24  1:29           ` Yu Zhao
2022-11-22 20:05 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-11-22 22:11   ` Ivan Babrou
2022-11-23  1:28     ` Ivan Babrou
2022-11-28 18:07       ` Johannes Weiner
2022-12-05 19:28         ` Shakeel Butt
2022-12-05 23:57         ` Ivan Babrou
2022-12-06  0:50           ` Ivan Babrou
2022-12-06 19:00             ` Johannes Weiner
2022-12-06 19:13               ` Eric Dumazet
2022-12-06 20:51                 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-12-06 23:10                   ` Shakeel Butt
2022-12-07 12:53                     ` Johannes Weiner
2022-12-08  0:31                       ` Shakeel Butt [this message]

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