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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	sidhartha.kumar@oracle.com,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Bert Karwatzki <spasswolf@web.de>, Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/15] Avoid MAP_FIXED gap exposure
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 18:28:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240626182811.fa717f7b1051a35af72cebfa@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nlq44eay3zjapg23tjprukm7w2ae6qcy5xtc5xsxogsmd52lwu@fhfzf4l6777u>

On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 21:15:18 -0400 "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com> wrote:

> * Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> [240626 16:59]:
> > On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 15:11:30 -0400 "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > It is now possible to walk the vma tree using the rcu read locks and is
> > > beneficial to do so to reduce lock contention.  Doing so while a
> > > MAP_FIXED mapping is executing means that a reader may see a gap in the
> > > vma tree that should never logically exist - and does not when using the
> > > mmap lock in read mode.  The temporal gap exists because mmap_region()
> > > calls munmap() prior to installing the new mapping.
> > 
> > What are the consequences when this race hits?  IOW, why do we need to
> > change anything?
> > 
> 
> In the (near) future, we want to walk the vma tree to produce
> /proc/<pid>/maps.  Without this change we will see the temporal gap and
> expose it to the user.  This series was initially sent to Suren as part
> of his patch set.
> 
> We also have the new interface for an ioctl request to a vma at or above
> an address. I had highlighted that an rcu reader would be ideal, but
> proved too difficult at this time. These patches by Andrii are currently
> not using the rcu reading method as this and a per-vma locking
> clarification are needed.
> 
> Since there were two users for this code, I decided to send it out
> before the other patches.

OK, thanks.  We're approaching -rc6 and things are a bit sketchy so I'm
inclined to hold this off until the next cycle, unless there's urgency?


  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-27  1:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-25 19:11 [PATCH v2 00/15] Avoid MAP_FIXED gap exposure Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-25 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 01/15] mm/mmap: Correctly position vma_iterator in __split_vma() Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-25 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 02/15] mm/mmap: Introduce abort_munmap_vmas() Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-25 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 03/15] mm/mmap: Introduce vmi_complete_munmap_vmas() Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-25 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 04/15] mm/mmap: Extract the gathering of vmas from do_vmi_align_munmap() Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-25 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 05/15] mm/mmap: Introduce vma_munmap_struct for use in munmap operations Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-25 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 06/15] mm/mmap: Change munmap to use vma_munmap_struct() for accounting and surrounding vmas Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-25 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 07/15] mm/mmap: Extract validate_mm() from vma_complete() Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-25 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 08/15] mm/mmap: Inline munmap operation in mmap_region() Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-25 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 09/15] mm/mmap: Expand mmap_region() munmap call Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-25 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 10/15] mm/mmap: Reposition vma iterator in mmap_region() Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-25 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 11/15] mm/mmap: Track start and end of munmap in vma_munmap_struct Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-25 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 12/15] mm/mmap: Avoid zeroing vma tree in mmap_region() Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-25 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 13/15] mm/mmap: Use PHYS_PFN " Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-25 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 14/15] mm/mmap: Use vms accounted pages " Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-26 16:32   ` Kees Cook
2024-06-26 18:04     ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-26 18:45       ` Kees Cook
2024-06-25 19:11 ` [PATCH v2 15/15] mm/mmap: Move may_expand_vm() check " Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-26 20:58 ` [PATCH v2 00/15] Avoid MAP_FIXED gap exposure Andrew Morton
2024-06-27  1:15   ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-06-27  1:28     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2024-06-27 13:31       ` Liam R. Howlett
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-06-27  9:31 Bert Karwatzki
2024-07-03 10:13 Bert Karwatzki
2024-07-03 13:53 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-07-03 14:30 Bert Karwatzki
2024-07-04 18:31 ` Liam R. Howlett
2024-07-04 21:07 Bert Karwatzki
2024-07-04 21:15 Bert Karwatzki
2024-07-04 21:50 Bert Karwatzki

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