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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/19] mm/pagewalk: Check pfnmap for folio_walk_start()
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 20:46:52 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240828234652.GD3773488@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zs9-beA-eTuXTfN6@x1n>

On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 03:45:49PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:

> Meanwhile I'm actually not 100% sure pte_special is only needed in
> gup-fast.  See vm_normal_page() and for VM_PFNMAP when pte_special bit is
> not defined:
> 
> 		} else {
> 			unsigned long off;
> 			off = (addr - vma->vm_start) >> PAGE_SHIFT;
> 			if (pfn == vma->vm_pgoff + off) <------------------ [1]
> 				return NULL;
> 			if (!is_cow_mapping(vma->vm_flags))
> 				return NULL;
> 		}
> 
> I suspect things can go wrong when there's assumption on vm_pgoff [1].  At
> least vfio-pci isn't storing vm_pgoff for the base PFN, so this check will
> go wrong when pte_special is not supported on any arch but when vfio-pci is
> present.  I suspect more drivers can break it.

I think that is a very important point.

IIRC this was done magically in one of the ioremap pfns type calls,
and if VFIO is using fault instead it won't do it.

This probably needs more hand holding for the driver somehow..

> So I wonder if it's really the case in real life that only gup-fast would
> need the special bit.  It could be that we thought it like that, but nobody
> really seriously tried run it without special bit yet to see things broke.

Indeed.

What arches even use the whole 'special but not special' system?

Can we start banning some of this stuff on non-special arches?

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-28 23:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-26 20:43 [PATCH v2 00/19] mm: Support huge pfnmaps Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 01/19] mm: Introduce ARCH_SUPPORTS_HUGE_PFNMAP and special bits to pmd/pud Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 02/19] mm: Drop is_huge_zero_pud() Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 03/19] mm: Mark special bits for huge pfn mappings when inject Peter Xu
2024-08-28 15:31   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 04/19] mm: Allow THP orders for PFNMAPs Peter Xu
2024-08-28 15:31   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 05/19] mm/gup: Detect huge pfnmap entries in gup-fast Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 06/19] mm/pagewalk: Check pfnmap for folio_walk_start() Peter Xu
2024-08-28  7:44   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-28 14:24     ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28 15:30       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-28 19:45         ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28 23:46           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2024-08-29  6:35             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 18:45               ` Peter Xu
2024-08-29 15:10           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 18:49             ` Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 07/19] mm/fork: Accept huge pfnmap entries Peter Xu
2024-08-29 15:10   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 18:26     ` Peter Xu
2024-08-29 19:44       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-29 20:01         ` Peter Xu
2024-09-02  7:58   ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-03 21:23     ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 22:25       ` Andrew Morton
2024-09-09 22:43         ` Peter Xu
2024-09-09 23:15           ` Andrew Morton
2024-09-10  0:08             ` Peter Xu
2024-09-10  2:52               ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-10 12:16                 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-11  2:16                   ` Yan Zhao
2024-09-11 14:34                     ` Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 08/19] mm: Always define pxx_pgprot() Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 09/19] mm: New follow_pfnmap API Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 10/19] KVM: Use " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 11/19] s390/pci_mmio: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 12/19] mm/x86/pat: Use the new " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 13/19] vfio: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 14/19] acrn: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 15/19] mm/access_process_vm: " Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 16/19] mm: Remove follow_pte() Peter Xu
2024-09-01  4:33   ` Yu Zhao
2024-09-01 13:39     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 17/19] mm/x86: Support large pfn mappings Peter Xu
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 18/19] mm/arm64: " Peter Xu
2025-03-19 22:22   ` Keith Busch
2025-03-19 22:46     ` Peter Xu
2025-03-19 22:53       ` Keith Busch
2024-08-26 20:43 ` [PATCH v2 19/19] vfio/pci: Implement huge_fault support Peter Xu
2024-08-27 22:36 ` [PATCH v2 00/19] mm: Support huge pfnmaps Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-27 22:57   ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28  0:42     ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-28  0:46       ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-28 14:24       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-28 16:10         ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-08-28 23:49           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-29 19:21             ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-04 15:52               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04 16:38                 ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-04 16:43                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04 16:58                     ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-04 17:00                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04 17:07                         ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-09  3:56                           ` Ankit Agrawal
2024-08-28 14:41       ` Peter Xu
2024-08-28 16:23         ` Jiaqi Yan
2024-09-09  4:03 ` Ankit Agrawal
2024-09-09 15:03   ` Peter Xu

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